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Phillip_Rolfes
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Hello All! I know this has been discussed before, but I was wondering if anyone had Raya’s Byzantine Missal and would be willing to trade it for a prayer rope or two.
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smad0142
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I was able to secure a copy for a price from a member at ByzCath.org. You might want to try over there.
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Byz_Guy
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Just wondering if you mean Byzantine Daily Worship and not Byzantine Missal. The former reflects current usage. Byzantine Missal was earlier (1958) and reflects a fair amount of latinization, including the Filioque.
amazon.com/Byzantine-Missal-Sundays-Feast-Days/dp/B002TJJCR2
amazon.com/Byzantine-Daily-Worship-Joseph-Raya/dp/0911726071
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Phillip_Rolfes
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No, I meant the Byzantine Missal. I already have a copy of Byzantine Daily Worship, but would like to round off my collection of Raya’s materials with the Byzantine Missal.
Out of curiosity, do you have any idea of the contents?
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Vico
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If you have a library card then you should be able to get it on loan to see it, through worlcat:
worldcat.org/title/byzantine-missal-for-sundays-and-feast-days-with-rites-of-sacraments-and-various-offices-and-prayers/oclc/23872767
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smad0142
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Vico’s idea is great. The university libraray and local seminary both have copies where I live. And I can tell you whats in it, sure, anything in specific though?
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Byz_Guy
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I have a copy but I’m not ready to part with it yet. I’m not sure I’m the person to give an evaluation of its contents. It appears to be similar in scope with BDW but on a smaller scale.
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Phillip_Rolfes
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I see. Does it contain the cycle of Sunday readings? Any words of wisdom from Syedna Raya?
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Byz_Guy
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I’ve never owned BDW and only had the occasion to look at other’s copies. (I once found BDW on the cantor stand of an Orthodox parish!) So, I can’t really compare the two.
BM has 850 pages but the typeface seems larger to me than BDW. I don’t see the Cycle of Sunday Readings but it does have a large Menaion, along with Triodion and Pentecostarion. It contains the gems of the Eastern Church (Liturgy of St. John and St Basil, Akathist, Paraclisis, etc.) but also has sections for the Rosary, Angelus, Way of the Cross.
The title page gives Syedna Raya’s parish as:
St George’s R C Byzantine Church
Birmingham, Alabama 1958
I’m guessing the “R C” was used because there was no Melkite hierachy in the US as of yet.
BM has 850 pages but the typeface seems larger to me than BDW. I don’t see the Cycle of Sunday Readings but it does have a large Menaion, along with Triodion and Pentecostarion. It contains the gems of the Eastern Church (Liturgy of St. John and St Basil, Akathist, Paraclisis, etc.) but also has sections for the Rosary, Angelus, Way of the Cross.
The title page gives Syedna Raya’s parish as:
St George’s R C Byzantine Church
Birmingham, Alabama 1958
I’m guessing the “R C” was used because there was no Melkite hierachy in the US as of yet.
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Phillip_Rolfes
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Hmmm… Sounds like a very interesting book, especially given the time in which it was published.
Does the section on the Rosary simply repeat the Mysteries and meditations of the Latin/Roman Rosary, or does it provide the Byzantine Rosary (i.e. Prayer Rule of the Theotokos)?
I wonder how much more or less of the Menaion is contained in the Byzantine Missal than in the BDW.
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Byz_Guy
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Again, I can’t compare it with the BDW. One day I hope to snag one at a decent price. I was lucky to get this one on ebay fairly inexpensively. I’d prefer to have a BDW than the BM but this is all I could afford. 
As to the Rosary, it looks like the standard Latin form to me.
As to the Rosary, it looks like the standard Latin form to me.
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Vico
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Do you know about these:
#L01 - Let Us Pray to the Lord - A Daily Prayer Book (Volume I)
The Daily Office of Vespers, Orthros (daily and Sunday/Festal), Hours, and other various prayers.
Pocket size, in black leatherette. 440 pages. $30.00
#L02 - Let Us Pray to the Lord - A Liturgical Prayer Book (Volume II)The complete collection of Liturgies: Saint John Chrysostom, Saint Basil, and Presanctified Gifts, and the tropars, kondaks, prokimenon and alleluia verses.
Pocket size, in maroon leatherette. 440 pages. $30.00.
secure.webvalence.com/ecommerce/kiosk.lasso?merchant=ecpubs&kiosk=books&class=4
#L01 - Let Us Pray to the Lord - A Daily Prayer Book (Volume I)
The Daily Office of Vespers, Orthros (daily and Sunday/Festal), Hours, and other various prayers.
Pocket size, in black leatherette. 440 pages. $30.00
#L02 - Let Us Pray to the Lord - A Liturgical Prayer Book (Volume II)The complete collection of Liturgies: Saint John Chrysostom, Saint Basil, and Presanctified Gifts, and the tropars, kondaks, prokimenon and alleluia verses.
Pocket size, in maroon leatherette. 440 pages. $30.00.
secure.webvalence.com/ecommerce/kiosk.lasso?merchant=ecpubs&kiosk=books&class=4
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Byz_Guy
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No, I did not. Thanks for the tip. Still, a BDW would be great to have some day.
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Phillip_Rolfes
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Vico,
I have both of those books. I used to work at that publishing company.
I’m just curious about the Byzantine Missal because I’m looking to round off my collection of Sayedna Raya’s materials.
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Phillip_Rolfes
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Contact Alleluia Press. They’ve recently re-released the BDW. You should be able to get a copy for ca. $60.00Again, I can’t compare it with the BDW. One day I hope to snag one at a decent price. I was lucky to get this one on ebay fairly inexpensively. I’d prefer to have a BDW than the BM but this is all I could afford.
As to the Rosary, it looks like the standard Latin form to me.
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