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rciadan
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Why is today, September 1st, the first day of the liturgical year?
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ConstantineTG
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By tradition today was the first day of Creation.Why is today, September 1st, the first day of the liturgical year?
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Nine_Two
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I think it was the Roman New Year at the time Christianity was adopted.
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ConstantineTG
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But it is already the year 7000-somethingI think it was the Roman New Year at the time Christianity was adopted.
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rciadan
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Sooooo, the Seventh Day Adventists should actually be celebrating whatever they do on Monday? lol…By tradition today was the first day of Creation.
Can you point me to where this tradition comes from?
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ConstantineTG
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I think from the early Church and even the Jewish times when everyone was a Creationist and someone calculated the number of years from Adam and Eve to Jesus Christ. Although Nine-Two could be right too, it could have been the Roman Empire New Year then they injected the year to be from Creation.Sooooo, the Seventh Day Adventists should actually be celebrating whatever they do on Monday? lol…
Can you point me to where this tradition comes from?
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Vico
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The first 15 year Roman agricultural and land tax cycle (called indiction) began on 1 September 327. Justinian decreed that all dates must include the indiction via Novella 47, in the year 537. The Church began to use this. The west used a different indictions.Why is today, September 1st, the first day of the liturgical year?
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5Loaves
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S’pradznikom!
Also, "According to Holy Tradition, Christ entered the synagogue on September 1 to announce His mission to mankind (Luke 4:16-22)."
The New Year falls between the Dormition of the Mother of God, and the Nativity of the Mother of God. On the Feasts tier of an iconostasis with the 12 Great Feasts, the Nativity of the Theotokos is the first Holy Icon, on the far north end, and the Dormition of the Theotokos is the final icon on the extreme south end of the iconostasis.
Idiomela by John the Monk
The entrance of the year is at hand,
summoning together the distinguished saints to honor it:
Callista, Evodos, and Hermogenes, brethren and champions;
Simeon, the equal of the Angels;
Joshua, the son of Nun;
the Seven Youths of Ephesus;
and the choir of the forty Holy Women, forty times radiant.
As we celebrate their memory, let us cry out, O lovers of feasts:
“O Lord, bless the work of Your hands,//
and make us worthy to pass profitably through the course of the year!”
Background on the Sept 1st date of the New Year (Indiction).Why is today, September 1st, the first day of the liturgical year?
Also, "According to Holy Tradition, Christ entered the synagogue on September 1 to announce His mission to mankind (Luke 4:16-22)."
The year is 7521 computed from the creation of the world.But it is already the year 7000-something
The New Year falls between the Dormition of the Mother of God, and the Nativity of the Mother of God. On the Feasts tier of an iconostasis with the 12 Great Feasts, the Nativity of the Theotokos is the first Holy Icon, on the far north end, and the Dormition of the Theotokos is the final icon on the extreme south end of the iconostasis.
Idiomela by John the Monk
The entrance of the year is at hand,
summoning together the distinguished saints to honor it:
Callista, Evodos, and Hermogenes, brethren and champions;
Simeon, the equal of the Angels;
Joshua, the son of Nun;
the Seven Youths of Ephesus;
and the choir of the forty Holy Women, forty times radiant.
As we celebrate their memory, let us cry out, O lovers of feasts:
“O Lord, bless the work of Your hands,//
and make us worthy to pass profitably through the course of the year!”
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Joe_Kelley
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I don’t remember what all the Romans did to the calendar over time. However, it would apprear that September, October, November and December were at one time at least the seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth months.I think it was the Roman New Year at the time Christianity was adopted.
Incidentally, around the 16th century the West celebrated the New Year on March 25. This change of year between March 24 and March 25 creates some confusion when one is doing genealogies. For dates between January 1 and March 24 the year is often followed by a second integer in parenthesis to indicate present usage.
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Nine_Two
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New Years moved a few times in the Roman World. I know it was March 1 at one point, explaining the Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec thing.I don’t remember what all the Romans did to the calendar over time. However, it would apprear that September, October, November and December were at one time at least the seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth months.
Incidentally, around the 16th century the West celebrated the New Year on March 25. This change of year between March 24 and March 25 creates some confusion when one is doing genealogies. For dates between January 1 and March 24 the year is often followed by a second integer in parenthesis to indicate present usage.
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Aramis
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Yep, and two other months had ordinals, later replaced with names.New Years moved a few times in the Roman World. I know it was March 1 at one point, explaining the Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec thing.
Quintillus became July after Julius.
Sextillus became August after Augustus.
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