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It just came to me. if protestants really claim to be able to enterpret SS, why then, if it is not written in plain words they do not believe is there?

***“Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life.” ***
 
BDawg said:
I have no idea what your question means.
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sorry.
let me give you an example. protestants do not believe in baptism of infants. why? because the words are there. (please baptize infants).
there are many more…

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wisdomseeker said:
sorry.
let me give you an example. protestants do not believe in baptism of infants. why? because the words are there. (please baptize infants).
there are many more…
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Still not getting it. What words are where?
 
wisdomseeker said:
It just came to me. if protestants really claim to be able to enterpret SS, why then, if it is not written in plain words they do not believe is there?

***“Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life.” ***
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WHAAAAAAAAT??? LOL
 
I am guessing wisdomseeker means the following:

Sola Scripturists don’t believe in infant baptism because there is no declarative statement in the Bible that says “baptize infants.” So how come Sola Scripturists believe anyone can interpret Scripture, since the Bible doesn’t say that either.
 
He means, correct me if wrong, that if Protestans can interpret scriptures correctly, why can’t they understand something without being written in how they want it to be written.
 
MarcoPolo said:
I am guessing wisdomseeker means the following:

Sola Scripturists don’t believe in infant baptism because there is no declarative statement in the Bible that says “baptize infants.” So how come Sola Scripturists believe anyone can interpret Scripture, since the Bible doesn’t say that either.
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That makes sense, at least. The explanation inJesus gives is just as incomprehensible as wisdomseeker’s posts, though. Maybe if enough people give possible translations, WS can pipe in and pick the one he likes best. Multiple choice is always easier.😉
 
wisdomseeker said:
sorry.
let me give you an example. protestants do not believe in baptism of infants. why? because the words are there. (please baptize infants).
there are many more…

:bowdown: :bowdown2: :byzsoc:
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Wisdomseeker,

Who said? I was baptized a month and a day after I was born.

I think I get your point, however. You are speaking about a small number of protestants that take sola scritura to an extreme. In fact, I think you are talking about solo scriptura.
Sola Scriptura does not state that all things not in the Bible are condemned, otherwise most protestants would not use the three creeds, etc. Lutherans, for example, have the Book of Concord, our confession of faith. It isn’t in the Bible, but we believe that it properly reflects scripture. Sola Scriptura more often means that human tradition and practices cannot contradict scripture.

Luther (and some Lutherans, such as myself) believed most of the Marion dogmas (except invocation) currently held by Catholics. He also said that since scripture is not clear on the subject, it should not be an article of faith, leaving Christians to decide for themselves.

Jon
 
wisdomseeker said:
It just came to me. if protestants really claim to be able to enterpret SS, why then, if it is not written in plain words they do not believe is there?

***“Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life.” ***
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I think I need an oral tradition to understand the question of this thread.
 
inJESUS said:
He means, correct me if wrong, that if Protestans can interpret scriptures correctly, why can’t they understand something without being written in how they want it to be written.
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right on!!!

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JonNC said:
Wisdomseeker,

Who said? I was baptized a month and a day after I was born.

I think I get your point, however. You are speaking about a small number of protestants that take sola scritura to an extreme. In fact, I think you are talking about solo scriptura.
Sola Scriptura does not state that all things not in the Bible are condemned, otherwise most protestants would not use the three creeds, etc. Lutherans, for example, have the Book of Concord, our confession of faith. It isn’t in the Bible, but we believe that it properly reflects scripture. Sola Scriptura more often means that human tradition and practices cannot contradict scripture.

Luther (and some Lutherans, such as myself) believed most of the Marion dogmas (except invocation) currently held by Catholics. He also said that since scripture is not clear on the subject, it should not be an article of faith, leaving Christians to decide for themselves.

Jon
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:confused: :confused:

small number? wht do you call small number?

"Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life."
 
MarcoPolo said:
I am guessing wisdomseeker means the following:

Sola Scripturists don’t believe in infant baptism because there is no declarative statement in the Bible that says “baptize infants.” So how come Sola Scripturists believe anyone can interpret Scripture, since the Bible doesn’t say that either.
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Christian baptism historically derives from the practice of the Jewish mikveh (full immersion for purposes of ritual cleanliness.)

However, this was and is not only done for adults. Sometimes an adult Gentile female will seek to convert to Judaism, and if she already has very small children, they are converted along with her, and they all must be immersed in the mikveh as part of their conversions.
 
MarcoPolo said:
I am guessing wisdomseeker means the following:

Sola Scripturists don’t believe in infant baptism because there is no declarative statement in the Bible that says “baptize infants.” So how come Sola Scripturists believe anyone can interpret Scripture, since the Bible doesn’t say that either.
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Solo Scripturists might not Baptize infants.

“Go into all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.”

As infants are part of nations… Pretty clear to me!

Jon
 
MarcoPolo said:
I am guessing wisdomseeker means the following:

Sola Scripturists don’t believe in infant baptism because there is no declarative statement in the Bible that says “baptize infants.” So how come Sola Scripturists believe anyone can interpret Scripture, since the Bible doesn’t say that either.
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thanks for clarifying.

infant baptism is jus an example.
the Church, the pope, the power of forgiveness… and so forth are issues with protestants. all because is not spelled out they cannot believe. therefore how can they claim to underst the SS if they understand only what is clear written and spelled out the exactly words?
May they think that SS is just a book like any other written by human by human knowledge.

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“Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life.” **
 
JonNC said:
Far less than those who baptize infants, confess the Apostles Creed, etc.
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the issue here is basic the enterpretation of SS.

**“Lord, to whom shall we go? you have the words of eternal life.” **
 
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