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linuxology
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I am happy to hear at least someone is standing up for what they believe.
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Michael12
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Oh, yes they can. Those consonants can’t be sustained, but the words that they end most certainly can. But this goes beyond just those three consonants. It is a basic principle of good singing that you elongate the preceding vowel and add the final consonant only at the end of the held note. You only ever sustain the vowels. If you are singing “Donnnnnnnn’t cry for me, Argentina” (let alone the impossible “Don’ttttttttttttt cry for me, Argentina”) you are doing it wrong. The preceding vowel (the “oh” sound) is what gets sustained.
See: vocalcoach.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Sing-the-Five-Basic-Singing-Vowels
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drforjc
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I wonder if that is true canonically. Does this “association” have any canonical standing in the Church? Just wondering.
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PacoG
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What’s a “Eucharistic Prayer experience” ? (If they want us to have a “Eucharistic prayer experience” shouldn’t they set up some kind of roller coaster or ride for use during the canon of the Mass?)
I welcome all answers…whether serious, sarcastic, funny or tongue-in-cheeky.
I welcome all answers…whether serious, sarcastic, funny or tongue-in-cheeky.
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tafan
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They may or may not have a right to petition, I don’t know.Well - they have the right to petition…and the Bishops and the Vatican have the duty to consider the petition(s).
The Bishops and the Vatican also have the right to “say no” to the petition(s) after due consideration.
At that point the priests who submitted it have a duty to accept the decision of the Bishops in obedience…
The question will be - will they accept no for an answer…
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James
The bishops and the Vatican certainly have NO duty to consider the petition.
They have a duty to accept the translation NOW, not after some petition has been considered.
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Corki
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ProVobis
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Or, if you’re a song writer, you can add the translingual “alleluia” at the end. Any syllable of it is easy to chant and held over several notes.
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superamazingman
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Exactly. But they somehow think they don’t need it now.Well - they have the right to petition…and the Bishops and the Vatican have the duty to consider the petition(s).
The Bishops and the Vatican also have the right to “say no” to the petition(s) after due consideration.
At that point the priests who submitted it have a duty to accept the decision of the Bishops in obedience…
The question will be - will they accept no for an answer…
Peace
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mburn16
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for the many —> for the multitudes
Thats my only request about the new translation.
Thats my only request about the new translation.
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ProVobis
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To synch with the French and cognate with the Latin? Sounds reasonable IMO.
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roveau
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On the ground though, there has been no great revolt regarding the new translation. I haven’t heard a thing against it from parishioners in my parish - we’ve all adjusted to the new words, but I know that our priest doesn’t like the new translation… at all.
One congregation in Sydney was featured in the news as refusing to accept the new wording. The priest there spoke in a defiant way and I had the feeling that he was fueling the movement against it in his parish. I can’t imagine anyone being impressed with this sort of attitude to Church authority.
One congregation in Sydney was featured in the news as refusing to accept the new wording. The priest there spoke in a defiant way and I had the feeling that he was fueling the movement against it in his parish. I can’t imagine anyone being impressed with this sort of attitude to Church authority.
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Actaeon
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Nothing in the article states that these are “disobedient” priests. If it weren’t for the actions of those who didn’t like the ICEL translation, we wouldn’t even HAVE the new translation to begin with.
So consider it this way: there is always ALWAYS going to be some push-back against change. That push-back does not necessarily equate to disobedience… it didn’t for the people pushing for the new translation, and it doesn’t for the people pushing for a review of the new translation either.
(Although side note: I do feel that pushing for this review is a bit… preemptive. We haven’t had time to see if the new translation has fulfilled all of the promises that were given about it yet, or if it has had the opposite effect)
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