Call no man "father"

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stignatius said:
:bible1: Philemon 1:10
10I appeal to you for my child, Onesimus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment,

:bible1: 1 Corinthians 4:14-15
14 I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. 15 For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel

I know these quotes have been said before, but unless you want to accuse St. Paul of not being a Christian, I don’t see how calling priests father is an issue:shrug:
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Your bible is incorrect.

No father used in these verses. Not even in the Greek.

Phm 1:10
I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

1Cr 4:15
For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet [have ye] not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
 
jmcrae said:
Jesus did not forbid anyone to be called Rabbi. He was using hyperbole to make the point that we should not set our human leaders in the place of God.

I am quite certain that that verse is not referring to any faithful Catholics whatsoever, but rather, to the enemies of Christ’s Church. :mad:
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I’ll admit that its only a guess. But I believe that the catholic church described in great detail in the Book of Revelation. The “full of names of blaphemy” is just one of those descriptions.
 
believers said:
I’ll admit that its only a guess. But I believe that the catholic church described in great detail in the Book of Revelation. The “full of names of blaphemy” is just one of those descriptions.
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Not at all, since the Catholic Church is Christ’s Church. It is referring to the enemies of Christ’s Church.
 
jmcrae said:
Not at all, since the Catholic Church is Christ’s Church. It is referring to the enemies of Christ’s Church.
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Well… There’s THE bride and a woman who thinks she’s the bride.

Don’t you even find it interesting that every description in the Book of Revelation regarding the woman sitting on a beast describes the roman religion?
 
believers said:
Don’t you even find it interesting that every description in the Book of Revelation regarding the woman sitting on a beast describes the roman religion?
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What does pagan Rome have to do with the Catholic Church? :confused: Pagan Rome died out in the 400s AD.
 
jmcrae said:
What does pagan Rome have to do with the Catholic Church? :confused: Pagan Rome died out in the 400s AD.
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Maybe you should start a thread on the “the whore of babylon”? It would be interesting to see how others interpret the Book of Revelation especially the protestants.
 
believers said:
Maybe you should start a thread on the “the whore of babylon”? It would be interesting to see how others interpret the Book of Revelation especially the protestants.
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What if Martin Luther was the antichrist, and the Protestants are the Whore of Babylon? After all, they are a veritable Babel of belief systems. (I’m not saying they are - but a person could quite easily twist the Scriptures to make it look like that, couldn’t they?)

The traditional interpretation of the Church is that Nero was the antichrist, and the “whore of Babylon” was the “Babel” of pagan Roman gods - Zeus, Athena, etc.
 
The orginal text translates to ‘Daddy’ not ‘Father’

This thread is the epitomises the tragedy of mistranslation.
 
The orginal text translates to ‘Daddy’ not ‘Father’

The question which started this thread epitomises the tragedy of mistranslation.
 
so now do we agree that theres nothing wrong with calling a catholic priest father?, there has been plenty of scriptures used to support the okay of it in this thread for you non catholics who are not in agreement of it.

and as far as the Book of Revelations, what if your interpretation of that Verse is wrong, that Verse could be used to attack any denomination, I do not think God planed to use the book of revelations to point the finger and at a certain denomination and make them look evil. (which is why I’m proud to be a catholic church, I never heard the catholic Church describe the book of revelation to as specific denomination, which proves even more that the RCC is Christ centered). what if that verse comes out to be the Protestants, the protestants seem to boast how they are their interpretation is valid, and yet blame the RCC for all the Division among Christianity. and yet they all cannot come to an agreement of what the bible teaches, claims, says, and They too are a woman who THINKS they are the bride. I don’t think Christ has more then one bride

The Roman Catholic Church is a Universal Church with the same principles for EVERYBODY hence the name Catholic
 
believers said:
Your bible is incorrect.

No father used in these verses. Not even in the Greek.

Phm 1:10
I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

1Cr 4:15
For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet [have ye] not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
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Still easy, because he also says not to call anyone your teacher:
1 Timothy 2:7
2 Timothy 1:11
1 Corinthians 12:28
Ephesians 4:11

More religious fathers in the Bible:
2 Corinthians 12:14
1 John 2:13–14
 
jmcrae said:
What if Martin Luther was the antichrist, and the Protestants are the Whore of Babylon? After all, they are a veritable Babel of belief systems. (I’m not saying they are - but a person could quite easily twist the Scriptures to make it look like that, couldn’t they?)

The traditional interpretation of the Church is that Nero was the antichrist, and the “whore of Babylon” was the “Babel” of pagan Roman gods - Zeus, Athena, etc.
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What if this verse applied to the true church and “her” referred to the roman catholic church?

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 
stignatius said:
Still easy, because he also says not to call anyone your teacher:
1 Timothy 2:7
2 Timothy 1:11
1 Corinthians 12:28
Ephesians 4:11

More religious fathers in the Bible:
2 Corinthians 12:14
1 John 2:13–14
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. You seem to think that the word “father” is a no no in all circumstances. It is the usage of that word when it refers to “religious” matters. In other words, please tell your pope to stop giving the title of “father” to the priests in your religion. It’s blasphemy. That title is reserved for the “Father” which is in heaven.
 
believers said:
In other words, please tell your pope to stop giving the title of “father” to the priests in your religion. It’s blasphemy. That title is reserved for the “Father” which is in heaven.
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😃 This matter seems to never get any clearer.
I was wondering why no one dare to correct St. Paul for calling himself father 🙂 and St. Peter called Mark “son”.
 
believers said:
I’m not sure what you’re getting at. You seem to think that the word “father” is a no no in all circumstances. It is the usage of that word when it refers to “religious” matters. In other words, please tell your pope to stop giving the title of “father” to the priests in your religion. It’s blasphemy. That title is reserved for the “Father” which is in heaven.
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Mister would be a no-no too, by your standards, since it is derived from “master”.
 
Sixtus said:
The orginal text translates to ‘Daddy’ not ‘Father’

The question which started this thread epitomises the tragedy of mistranslation.
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As usual… you’re not even going to mention that Jesus was referring to the title of “father” in regards to religious matters. He did not say call yourselves daddy. By the way, who doesn’t the roman catholic church call “father”.
 
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