Calling All Aetheists

[cheddarsox]

I googles “aetheist” and it asked…did you mean ‘atheist’

and there were some sites that spelled it aetheist, but none of my dictionaries had that as an alternative spelling, and the online dictionaries I tried did not recognize ‘aetheist’ as a word.

so, that’s all I know for now.

six online dictionaries and three house collegiate dictionaries…no entry for ‘aetheist’

I guess we’ve been sent on a “fools errand” kind of ironic…huh?

 

[bella5110]

Gilbert Keith, thank you, but I think that I will define the term “awful” now.

Type “aetheism” in the Yahoo search engine and the first website to appear is aetheism.com On the home page, click on the “image gallery” on the left and then click on “war on Christmas propoganda posters”, or simply type “Christmas” in the search engine of the home page of aetheism.about.com and then go to “Christmas news”, then click on “War on Christmas propoganda.”
either way, you will find a World War II poster, originally titled “Feet First”, that shows a soldiers boots with a picture of an armed soldier behind him: the poster has been altered to show the soldier stepping on a cr’eche with the inscription
“CRUSH A CRE’CHE”! KEEP AMERICA FREE FROM A RELIGIOUS CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR. IT’S UP TO YOU!
The website belongs to Austin Cline, a regional director of the council for secular humanism. (Ivy League grad). He says it is “an appropriate image to depict how “Christian Nationalists” seem to perceive the alleged threats to their treasured religious symbols.”
Cline may want to pass this off as satire, but any fair minded person, who looks around his site will understand that his brand of aetheism is explicitly anti-Christian. The altered poster is in fact, a true characterization of the anti-Christian at work. Moreover it offers a glimpse into the mindset of radical secularists who seek to neuter Christmas. The snide remark about their “treasured” religious symbols is revealing as is the slightly modified inscription that appears below the poster:
“CRUSH A CR’ECHE & KEEP CHRISTMAS FREE FROM CHRISTIANITY”

That’s the goal of radical secularists—they want to gut Christmas of it’s religious meaning. It doesn’t get any clearer than this.

May I ask, what word would you use???

 

[bella5110]

I googles “aetheist” and it asked…did you mean ‘atheist’

and there were some sites that spelled it aetheist, but none of my dictionaries had that as an alternative spelling, and the online dictionaries I tried did not recognize ‘aetheist’ as a word.

so, that’s all I know for now.

six online dictionaries and three house collegiate dictionaries…no entry for ‘aetheist’

I guess we’ve been sent on a “fools errand” kind of ironic…huh?

Why is it whenever I see your name, I get up and eat the cheese curls in my cabinet…I’m gonna get fat on this thread…better get off it for now…

 

[bella5110]

I googles “aetheist” and it asked…did you mean ‘atheist’

and there were some sites that spelled it aetheist, but none of my dictionaries had that as an alternative spelling, and the online dictionaries I tried did not recognize ‘aetheist’ as a word.

so, that’s all I know for now.

six online dictionaries and three house collegiate dictionaries…no entry for ‘aetheist’

I guess we’ve been sent on a “fools errand” kind of ironic…huh?

Ummm…did you mean googled?

 

[Gilbert_Keith]

R McGeddon

I’m not preaching from it, I’m just highlighting that christians like to cherry pick what suits them most. You being a recent example, quoting only a part of that psalms passage.

Not trying to be petty … as you are certainly trying to be petty with bella … but, since you have made this point twice, exactly what part of the Psalms passage do you think should have been quoted that was not?

 

[R_McGeddon]

Don’t take suggestions from people? Gee then, how will you learn anything??

If you genuinely are an English teacher, you would have read my entire sentence which said:

“I don’t take suggestions from people that can’t spell properly”

More to the point, you learn by asking questions not by taking suggestions.

I would hazard a guess that you never asked many questions.

 

[Valke2]

If you genuinely are an English teacher, you would have read my entire sentence which said:

“I don’t take suggestions from people that can’t spell properly”

More to the point, you learn by asking questions not by taking suggestions.

I would hazard a guess that you never asked many questions.

properly spell. (could I be more annoying?)

 

[kellie]

The word you’ve entered isn’t in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search box to the right.

Suggestions for aetheist:
1. atheist
2. atheists
3. heathiest
4. athirst
5. atheism
6. eightieths
7. outhits
8. Ethiops
9. atheistic
10. ethicist

 

[R_McGeddon]

Not trying to be petty

No, I call it being informative.

as you are certainly trying to be petty with bella

If she isn’t big enough to admit she’s wrong that’s her problem.

since you have made this point twice, exactly what part of the Psalms passage do you think should have been quoted that was not?

How about the whole of Psalm 14:1

Psalm 14:1
14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

The entire passage of Psalm 14:1, that you should have quoted, clearly states that to not believe in God automatically makes one a fool and a performer of abominable works that does no good. Apart from the fact that Psalms was written by a man and is not divinely inspired, it is opinion, completely negates its validity. For anyone that only quotes the first part because it suits them, do themselves no favours at all. Christians are very quick to tell someone when they take passages out of context, and here you are doing exactly that.

 

[R_McGeddon]

properly spell. (could I be more annoying?)

 

[Valke2]

No, I call it being informative.
If she isn’t big enough to admit she’s wrong that’s her problem.

How about the whole of Psalm 14:1

The entire passage of Psalm 14:1, that you should have quoted, clearly states that to not believe in God automatically makes one a fool and a performer of abominable works that does no good.

I think, also, that there is a significant difference between atheism in biblical times and atheism today. When there was no fear of the God of Israel, no concern of divine retribution, slaughter and war were often the result. The kind of atheism described in the Psalm is the the atheism associated with individual (non)belief. It is the atheism associated with a people who, because they had no fear of God, had no qualms about persecuting the people of Israel.

 

[bella5110]

The word you’ve entered isn’t in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search box to the right.

Suggestions for aetheist:
1. atheist
2. atheists
3. heathiest
4. athirst
5. atheism
6. eightieths
7. outhits
8. Ethiops
9. atheistic
10. ethicist

You know Kellie, as a fellow Catholic, I would not think you would have this would bother you so much. I am not here for a spelling bee. Type aetheist and google it. period.

 

[bella5110]

If you genuinely are an English teacher, you would have read my entire sentence which said:

“I don’t take suggestions from people that can’t spell properly”

More to the point, you learn by asking questions not by taking suggestions.

I would hazard a guess that you never asked many questions.

You really have a terrible chip on your shoulder. I am not here for a spelling bee. You need to stop being rude, chill out.

 

[kellie]

You know Kellie, as a fellow Catholic, I would not think you would have this would bother you so much. I am not here for a spelling bee. Type aetheist and google it. period.

Oh, I’m meant to be your mate coz we share same religion.
I am mates with everyone on this forum, no matter what their faith.
But I did google aetheist, and it said do u mean atheist, as someone else posted.
So I looked up the online dictionary.
Oh well, God bless

 

[Gilbert_Keith]

R McGeddon

The entire passage of Psalm 14:1, that you should have quoted, clearly states that to not believe in God automatically makes one a fool and a performer of abominable works that does no good. Apart from the fact that Psalms was written by a man and is not divinely inspired, it is opinion, completely negates its validity. For anyone that only quotes the first part because it suits them, do themselves no favours at all. Christians are very quick to tell someone when they take passages out of context, and here you are doing exactly that.

So if I were to quote one of the Ten commandments instead of all ten, you would say I had taken the quote out of its context?

This argument is getting rather silly.

The author of Psalms certainly *was *inspired, and the record of morality among atheists is not anything I would brag about if I were you.

The prisons are full of atheists! Ask any prison chaplain!

And do I have to mention Hitler, Stalin, and Mao once again?

And what is an abominable work if it is not the vain attempt to kill one’s own God?

 

[Gilbert_Keith]

Valke

I think, also, that there is a significant difference between atheism in biblical times and atheism today. When there was no fear of the God of Israel, no concern of divine retribution, slaughter and war were often the result. The kind of atheism described in the Psalm is the the atheism associated with individual (non)belief. It is the atheism associated with a people who, because they had no fear of God, had no qualms about persecuting the people of Israel.

I know you weren’t there, so you must cite your source. Thank you.

 

[Valke2]

There’s a midrash in which God says, “It is OK if my children forget me and observe my Torah, for in observing my Torah they will eventually come back to me.”

So here we see that there’s no immediate condemnation for the jew who does not believe in God, as it is assumed that as long as they are following Torah, they will come back to God. It seems to be more concerned here with Jews as a people, than individual jews.

The Torah is concerned with “practical atheism” which is described in wikipedia as being caused by moral failure, hypocrisy, willful ignorance and infidelity. Practical atheists were said to behave as though God, morals, ethics and social responsibility did not exist; they abandoned duty and embraced hedonism.
This is, I believe, the atheism that is decried in the Psalm. A disbelief in the power of God that led one to have no fear of doing immoral acts.
Unfortunately, I don’t have access to many of my books right now. If I come across more specific citations, I’ll provide them.

 

[Loginus]

There’s a midrash in which God says, “It is OK if my children forget me and observe my Torah, for in observing my Torah they will eventually come back to me.”

So here we see that there’s no immediate condemnation for the jew who does not believe in God, as it is assumed that as long as they are following Torah, they will come back to God. It seems to be more concerned here with Jews as a people, than individual jews.

The Torah is concerned with “practical atheism” which is described in wikipedia as being caused by moral failure, hypocrisy, willful ignorance and infidelity. Practical atheists were said to behave as though God, morals, ethics and social responsibility did not exist; they abandoned duty and embraced hedonism.
This is, I believe, the atheism that is decried in the Psalm. A disbelief in the power of God that led one to have no fear of doing immoral acts.
Unfortunately, I don’t have access to many of my books right now. If I come across more specific citations, I’ll provide them.

Ah this is why I love Judaism. Such an interesting and progressive understanding of the scriptures

Im guessing this is the reason why there are such things as ‘Atheist Jews’?

 

[Valke2]

Ah this is why I love Judaism. Such an interesting and progressive understanding of the scriptures

Im guessing this is the reason why there are such things as ‘Atheist Jews’?

what’s a religon without a little paradox?

 

[Gilbert_Keith]

I agree that practical atheism and theoretical atheism are two different things, but I don’t see how theoretical atheism helps us to follow the first and greatest commandment: “to love the Lord your God with your whole mind, and heart, and soul.”

I’ve never met a “theoretical” atheist who was not also a practical atheist, whereas I’ve met plenty of “theoretical” Christians and Jews who were practical atheists.