Calling all catholics protestants, and everyone else!Books :)

[grampben]

One of my friends has Intitutes, so I’ll borrow it.

Just orded the Imitation of Christ and Jesus of Nazareth. Sometimes it’s good to read other people sharing their devotions to Jesus. Also, as I understand it, in Jesus of Nazareth Pope Benedict XVI says he is writing as Joseph Ratzinger, not as Pope. Does this mean it’s just his personal thoughts?
I thought it looked intriguing, and I have no books similar to it, so I thought I’d start now

Thanks guys. By all means let’s keep talking books

 

[Peter_J]

Do you think Pope Benedict’s book has more significants than John Calvin’s Institute?

You do seem to miss the point a lot, my friend.

I think that Pope Benedict’s book has more significance than the books you’ve read by Hahn or Madrid.

I’m not too interested in reading Calvin’s Institute, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t consider it “significant” – heck, I consider Buddha’s teaching to be “significant”, even though I’m not interested in studying them.

On a slightly different subject, I have read bits and pieces of the key Lutheran documents, but I haven’t yet read one straight through. Which would you recommend that I start with?

 

[christian77]

You do seem to miss the point a lot, my friend.

I think that Pope Benedict’s book has more significance than the books you’ve read by Hahn or Madrid.

I’m not too interested in reading Calvin’s Institute, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t consider it “significant” – heck, I consider Buddha’s teaching to be “significant”, even though I’m not interested in studying them.

On a slightly different subject, I have read bits and pieces of the key Lutheran documents, but I haven’t yet read one straight through. Which would you recommend that I start with?

Well you know, we are both Christians who see things quite differently. I hope we can agree that man’s chief aim in life is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. I’m not sure if the Catholic Church can improve on that statement found in the Westminster Confession of Faith.

 

[Peter_J]

Well you know, we are both Christians who see things quite differently.

Yes, I think we are.

I hope we can agree that man’s chief aim in life is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.

No problem with that.

 

[christian77]

Yes, I think we are.

No problem with that.

Maybe all roads lead to Geneva…LOL!

BTW, I own the Catholic Catechism alongside the Westminster Confession of Faith. Which Catechism and confession is more truthful. Maybe we need a thrid book to decide this stalemate? I nominate the Bible as the tiebreaker between confessions of faith.

 

[Sabda]

One of my friends has Intitutes, so I’ll borrow it.

Just orded the Imitation of Christ and Jesus of Nazareth. Sometimes it’s good to read other people sharing their devotions to Jesus. Also, as I understand it, in Jesus of Nazareth Pope Benedict XVI says he is writing as Joseph Ratzinger, not as Pope. Does this mean it’s just his personal thoughts?
I thought it looked intriguing, and I have no books similar to it, so I thought I’d start now

Thanks guys. By all means let’s keep talking books

In regard to Jesus of Nazareth, yes, he wrote it as simply one Christian to other Christians. It is simply his personal thoughts.

Imitation is very good but one thing I found out was I had to keep in mind that it was written buy one monk to other monks. Just so you know.

Happy reading!

 

[Peter_J]

Maybe all roads lead to Geneva…LOL!

BTW, I own the Catholic Catechism alongside the Westminster Confession of Faith. Which Catechism and confession is more truthful. Maybe we need a thrid book to decide this stalemate?

Well, I don’t see it as stalemate.

I nominate the Bible as the tiebreaker between confessions of faith.

Dude, you like the Bible? Me too!

 

[wisdomseeker]

In regard to Jesus of Nazareth, yes, he wrote it as simply one Christian to other Christians. It is simply his personal thoughts.

Imitation is very good but one thing I found out was I had to keep in mind that it was written buy one monk to other monks. Just so you know.

Happy reading!

I have this book for a while now. because it is so amazing it is taking me a good while to read it. it is really amazing the insight.

12 Therefore I intend always to remind you of these things, though you know them and are established in the truth that you have. 13 I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to arouse you by way of reminder, 14 since I know that the putting off of my body will be soon, as our Lord Jesus Christ showed me. 15 And I will see to it that after my departure you may be able at any time to recall these things.

 

[christian77]

Well, I don’t see it as stalemate.

Dude, you like the Bible? Me too!

I’m sure we agree that the Bible is God-breathed. Do you think the Bible is God’s ultimate source of revelation about His Son? If we want to know what God is like, we look to His Son as Christ is revealed to us in the Scriptures. It is the purest source of light that God has given us to live in Christ…to the glory of God.

 

[Peter_J]

I’m sure we agree that the Bible is God-breathed. Do you think the Bible is God’s ultimate source of revelation about His Son?

I guess I have no problem with that statement.

To quote The Gift of Authority (another ARCIC document, as it happens):
19. Within Tradition the Scriptures occupy a unique and normative place and belong to what has been given once for all. As the written witness to God’s “Yes” they require the Church constantly to measure its teaching, preaching and action against them. “Since the Scriptures are the uniquely inspired witness to divine revelation, the Church’s expression of that revelation must be tested by its consonance with Scripture” (Authority in the Church: Elucidation, 2). Through the Scriptures God’s revelation is made present and transmitted in the life of the Church. The “Yes” of God is recognised in and through the “Amen” of the Church which receives the authentic revelation of God. By receiving certain texts as true witnesses to divine revelation, the Church identified its Holy Scriptures. It regards this corpus alone as the inspired Word of God written and, as such, uniquely authoritative.

 

[christian77]

Ok guys I have a £15 voucher for waterstones, and I don’t know what to get. Any books on catholicism, protestantism, christianity, theology you could recommend. I’m thinking ‘imitation of christ’ but anyone have any other suggestions.

We can talk books on this thread

Some of us have decided to buy this book, read and discuss it together on this Forum site. You are welcome to join us. I will start a thread on this joint-venture when I get my copy.

Would you consider reading this book? I just ordered it. I have no idea what these Christian leaders have to say. They are respected Evangelicals and respected Catholic leaders in our Christian communities. Let’s all consider reading it and discuss it. Personally, I see ECT 1, and ECT II to be a mistake from my viewpoint. - Christian77

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Evangelicals and Catholics Together: Toward a Common Mission
by Charles Colson, Richard J. Neuhaus

 

[Peter_J]

Some of us have decided to buy this book, read and discuss it together on this Forum site. You are welcome to join us. I will start a thread on this joint-venture when I get my copy.

Evangelicals and Catholics Together: Toward a Common Mission
by Charles Colson, Richard J. Neuhaus

Hi christian77,

Concerning your proposal … what you think of starting it off with a discussion of the “Ecumenical Roundtable Discussion”, Plausible Ecumenism, from the January/February, 2000 issue of Touchstone ?

 

[christian77]

Hi christian77,

Concerning your proposal … what you think of starting it off with a discussion of the “Ecumenical Roundtable Discussion”, Plausible Ecumenism, from the January/February, 2000 issue of Touchstone ?

I already ordered my book. I like Chuck Colson and J.I. Packer. I think you like the Catholics in that ECT book. Therefore, let’s stick with the ECT book to start with.

 

[JPUSC]

LEFT TO TELL: Discovering God Amidst the Rwandan Holocaust
Immaculée Ilibagiza

Immaculee Ilibagiza grew up in a country she loved, surrounded by a family she cherished. But in 1994 her idyllic world was ripped apart as Rwanda descended into a bloody genocide. Immaculee’s family was brutally murdered during a killing spree that lasted three months and claimed the lives of nearly a million Rwandans.

Incredibly, Immaculee survived the slaughter. For 91 days, she and seven other women huddled silently together in the cramped bathroom of a local pastor while hundreds of machete-wielding killers hunted for them.

It was during those endless hours of unspeakable terror that Immaculee discovered the power of prayer, eventually shedding her fear of death and forging a profound and lasting relationship with God. She emerged from her bathroom hideout having discovered the meaning of truly unconditional love—a love so strong she was able seek out and forgive her family’s killers.
The triumphant story of this remarkable young woman’s journey through the darkness of genocide will inspire anyone whose life has been touched by fear, suffering, and loss.

From Publishers Weekly

Starred Review. In 1994, Rwandan native Ilibagiza was 22 years old and home from college to spend Easter with her devout Catholic family, when the death of Rwanda’s Hutu president sparked a three-month slaughter of nearly one million ethnic Tutsis in the country. She survived by hiding in a Hutu pastor’s tiny bathroom with seven other starving women for 91 cramped, terrifying days. This searing firsthand account of Ilibagiza’s experience cuts two ways: her description of the evil that was perpetrated, including the brutal murders of her family members, is soul-numbingly devastating, yet the story of her unquenchable faith and connection to God throughout the ordeal uplifts and inspires. Her account of the miracles that protected her is simple and vivid. Her Catholic faith shines through, but the book will speak on a deep level to any person of faith. Ilibagiza’s remarkable path to forgiving the perpetrators and releasing her anger is a beacon to others who have suffered injustice. She brings the battlefield between good and evil out of the genocide around her and into her own heart, mind and soul. This book is a precious addition to the literature that tries to make sense of humankind’s seemingly bottomless depravity and counterbalancing hope in an all-powerful, loving God. (Mar.)
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