Can a Catholic brother preside at a non-Catholic funeral

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I have recently heard of a non-ordained Catholic brother of a religious society who has presided at non-Catholic funerals. My understanding is he does simple readings and delivers a reflection and that’s about it.

Is there any church teaching that deals with this?
 
Why would there be? We are not talking about a Catholic funeral Mass. It sounds as though this man might work for a funeral home or such, and is giving the opportunity for some type of “religious service” for the un-Churched. We have a Deacon in my diocese that does the same thing.

Burying the dead is a corporal act of mercy.
 
Thanks. I don’t have an issue with it personally, but I also never heard of such before.
 
He’s a brother, like a consecrated woman is a sister. They’re a rare vocation but they’re still out there. The Franciscans, Glenmarians and others have them. They take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience but they are not ordained to the clergy.
 
I think Catholic ministers (or any Catholic who could be interpreted as such by his actions) need the permission of the bishop to preside at non-Catholic religious services of any kind. The concerns would be either misrepresenting the Catholic faith or else giving the impression of relativism. I don’t think that precludes accepting an invitation to say something at a burial that any ordinary person might say–for instance, reading a eulogy prepared by the family or reading some text that they ask for because the deceased liked it, that kind of thing.

If I knew the brother, I might ask him about it directly. I don’t think that rumors like you’re describing are actionable if you don’t. (Not that you were asking if it were; I understand that is not your question.)

I do know a Catholic who considered the diaconate but did not become a deacon who has apparently become something of a favorite among his non-religious friends for officiating at weddings and funerals. That is more problematic. In his state, officiating at weddings requires getting on the internet and getting “ordained” by some made-up religion in order to meet the state’s requirement to be a religious minister. As for funerals, he has his own sort pantheistic theology that he says he injects into those. It is not kosher for a Catholic to do either of those things. (He isn’t the kind who cares if he’s kosher with Church law or orthodox theology, unfortunately.)
 
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i am wondering if a religious Monk vs religious Monk ordained as a Priest. My community has both.
If he is in a Community, he would seek permission of the Superior of the Community rather then the Bishop.
For example my Community is answerable to the Magisterium rather then a Diocesean Bishop.
 
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Monks usually live in a cloistered environment like nuns do.

Brother’s usually live in the Community and operate like Sisters do. The make vows/promises of poverty, chastity and obedience, and usually are attached to a school or hospital that was founded by their order.
 
My Community is Monks who are in the world.
 
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Brother’s usually live in the Community and operate like Sisters do. The make vows/promises of poverty, chastity and obedience, and usually are attached to a school or hospital that was founded by their order.
Or they do preach and do works of mercy in the world as simple friars, as Franciscan and Dominican brothers do.
 
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The brothers I am familiar with did not preach at Mass. They gave retreats, worked at on of our Catholic high schools and one of our Catholic hospitals. Many were teachers or former military medics who became nurses/patient care techs.
 
The brothers I am familiar with did not preach at Mass. They gave retreats, worked at on of our Catholic high schools and one of our Catholic hospitals. Many were teachers or former military medics who became nurses/patient care techs.
No, not at Mass, not unless they are deacons. Even that tends to be, say, a Spanish-language homily when the priest is not fluent himself. I meant more like at retreats and youth rallies and so on, yes. (Or on the internet, I suppose, but I haven’t actually seen that.)
 
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I think Catholic ministers (or any Catholic who could be interpreted as such by his actions) need the permission of the bishop to preside at non-Catholic religious services of any kind.
He may be under the control of the superior of his order rather than the Bishop, and the superior may permit the lay brother to act in this way. As someone else said, it’s a corporal work of mercy. I’m also not seeing how doing a reading and leading a reflection is “presiding at a non-Catholic religious service.” It sounds like a non-denominational meditation on Scripture to me. I could conceivably get 5 Christians of various denominations from my office together and do the same thing in the break room once a week and probably not need anyone’s permission to do it.
 
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He may be under the control of the superior of his order rather than the Bishop, and the superior may permit the lay brother to act in this way. As someone else said, it’s a corporal work of mercy. I’m also not seeing how doing a reading and leading a reflection is “presiding at a non-Catholic religious service.” It sounds like a non-denominational meditation on Scripture to me. I could conceivably get 5 Christians of various denominations from my office together and do the same thing in the break room once a week and probably not need anyone’s permission to do it.
I didn’t mean he was doing anything wrong. I meant that this would be the concern that would need to be addressed when he got permission, that is all. Kind of a “don’t do anything I wouldn’t do” kind of thing (and certainly Catholic priests and bishops could preside at ecumenical gatherings even though they would do so in a somewhat different way than they would at a gathering that is meant specifically as a Catholic service with non-Catholic visitors.)

No, the fellow that was doing something not kosher was the guy getting “ordained” in some other denomination in order to be recognized as clergy by the state or one who was expressing a world view that was contrary to the faith in his remarks. A Catholic may not do that, but especially not a professed religious or ordained clergy, whose remarks are taken more as an official expression of the Faith.
 
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He may be under the control of the superior of his order rather than the Bishop, and the superior may permit the lay brother to act in this way. As someone else said, it’s a corporal work of mercy. I’m also not seeing how doing a reading and leading a reflection is “presiding at a non-Catholic religious service.” It sounds like a non-denominational meditation on Scripture to me. I could conceivably get 5 Christians of various denominations from my office together and do the same thing in the break room once a week and probably not need anyone’s permission to do it.
Exactly. If he is a member of an order of Pontifical Right he does not need permission of the bishop at all. It will come instead from the superior of his community or the Superior-General of the order. It may of course be a courtesy to inform the bishop that this is happening, but not within the bishop’s authority. It could even be that the bishop himself, being short-handed, may have asked the order if they were able to provide someone to do this, in the same manner a bishop might ask for a priest from the order to staff a parish or fill in for a sick priest. But it would be up to the superior to decide if he can accommodate the request based on his own needs.

Either way, there is nothing fundamentally wrong with this.
 
Even among Catholic funerals outside of Mass (rare though they may be, they can and do occur), anyone, regardless of clergy or otherwise, could preside. Permission of one’s pastor would be prudent.
 
Exactly. If he is a member of an order of Pontifical Right he does not need permission of the bishop at all. It will come instead from the superior of his community or the Superior-General of the order.
Which is what I said in post #7.
If he is in a Community, he would seek permission of the Superior of the Community rather then the Bishop.
It is always a courtesy to inform the Bishop of the Diocese a Community is in. Where I am , if a Priest of an Order would like to perform public Masses within the Diocese, they then are required to meet with the Bishop with all appropriate paperwork, etc. The Bishop is always welcome of additional Priests.
 
The Catholic Church may choose to offer the rites of christian burial to any one who asks. Permission may be needed from the Bishop, but this permission is either readily given or presumed. Similar permission would needed from a religious superior.

While only Catholics have the explicit right to a funeral mass or service, non-Catholics may be granted the service for any just cause. This is usually when there are limited options to host a Christian funeral for a particular non-Catholic. Often, the Catholic church building is the largest in a community, so someone who was prominent or tragically young may be hosted in the Catholic church to accommodated all the mourners.
 
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