Can a Catholic support North Korea?

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I don’t support North Korea, but I know others who do.

And one of those are Catholic.

Is a Catholic allowed to support North Korea?
 
What do you mean by supporting North Korea? Do you mean that this Catholic supports the North Koreans as a people, their government, or maybe their pursuance of nuclear weapons?
 
JD27076 said:
I don’t support North Korea, but I know others who do.

And one of those are Catholic.

Is a Catholic allowed to support North Korea?
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Support in what way? If it means to support totalitarianism then no. If it means to support the maintenance of public order by the North Korean government, then yes a Catholic should support them as well as all legitimate states. If it means to support beligerancy, then no. If it means to regard North Korea as a good country, then it’s stupid, not sinful.
 
devoutchristian said:
Support in what way? If it means to support totalitarianism then no. If it means to support the maintenance of public order by the North Korean government, then yes a Catholic should support them as well as all legitimate states. If it means to support beligerancy, then no. If it means to regard North Korea as a good country, then it’s stupid, not sinful.
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Regarding North Korea as a good country is stupid…but not america? How many wars have “we” started in the last two decades? Obviously the majority of people living here aren’t responsible, but our government and higher ranking officers of our military have so much blood on their hands they have hell to answer for (literally). North Korea’s government is an affront to peace in the region and Kim Jong Un (sp) is questionably mentally unstable, but what about obama? He has no problem with killing children in the womb no matter how old they are. I always get put off by americans who speak ill of other countries when our very own country is the 21st century version of nazi germany.
 
Why would anyone who is a Catholic, or who lives in freedom in the West support a known oppressor of not only Catholics but other Christians and that forces everyone except its top cadre of elites to live in poverty in order to develope weapons of mass destruction?
Are these people adults or merely rebelious adolescents?
Please don’t accuse me of being a dupe of Western or American propaganda. The regijme in North Korea lost the respect of everyone in the civilized world over 60 years ago, when it was the tool of the USSR and of Red China…Even today, it remains the tool of Communist China.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
Regarding North Korea as a good country is stupid…but not america? How many wars have “we” started in the last two decades? Obviously the majority of people living here aren’t responsible, but our government and higher ranking officers of our military have so much blood on their hands they have hell to answer for (literally). North Korea’s government is an affront to peace in the region and Kim Jong Un (sp) is questionably mentally unstable, but what about obama? He has no problem with killing children in the womb no matter how old they are. I always get put off by americans who speak ill of other countries when our very own country is the 21st century version of nazi germany.
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I didn’t deny the stupidity of calling America a good country. I merely said that it would be stupid to call North Korea a good country. To be fair, they are worse than us.
 
JD27076 said:
I don’t support North Korea, but I know others who do.

And one of those are Catholic.

Is a Catholic allowed to support North Korea?
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I don’t understand, what is there to support them about? :confused:
 
devoutchristian said:
America isn’t free in the Catholic sense of the word. It’s more free than North Korea, but it isn’t free in the same sense as say, Malta.
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I am not going to debate you, but, how do you know? Have you lived there, earned a living there, or even visited there for any length of time and got to intimately know what is going on with the people? Just because it may have a Roman Catholic majority, don’t assume that they have religious freedom in the sense that any Western European or North American Country has.
Never forget, the US is one of the only countries with a Constitution guarenteeing Freedom of Religion. France, The UK, and Canada do not. I don’t know about Malta.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
Just because it may have a Roman Catholic majority, don’t assume that they have religious freedom in the sense that any Western European or North American Country has.
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It was really just an example. I know that they are a confessional state by their constitution and that blasphemy is punishable by six months imprisonment, i.e. a far better system than that of the US. In any case I was merely using them as an example and my intention was not to talk up Malta but to point out that America isn’t God’s gift to the world, as some would have it.
 
I can’t understand people from the US who answer a question such as this while slamming their own country. It makes me wonder whether they have ever travelled to another country, especially those under totalitarian regimes. I can assure you that you are indeed fortunate to live in North America, especially in the US because, if you lived in most of the countries of this world and spoke out against them as you have done on this forum, you would be subjected to “the knock on your door in the middle of the night”.
I don’t know where or how you learned about your countries government, but you should be thankful that you live here…We may have our faults, but none so severe as you all make them to be.
Untill you have travelled to Cuba, Venezuela, Bulgaria, China, Formosa, or even some of the Western European countries, and were to get away from the carefully guided tours their governments insist tourists take so you could really see how people live, work, and survive, you have no real basis to knock your own country.
It makes me wonder why I spent 16 years in the Navy defending this country.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
Regarding North Korea as a good country is stupid…but not america? How many wars have “we” started in the last two decades? Obviously the majority of people living here aren’t responsible, but our government and higher ranking officers of our military have so much blood on their hands they have hell to answer for (literally). North Korea’s government is an affront to peace in the region and Kim Jong Un (sp) is questionably mentally unstable, but what about obama? He has no problem with killing children in the womb no matter how old they are. I always get put off by americans who speak ill of other countries when our very own country is the 21st century version of nazi germany.
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Interesting, I get put off by people who claim the US is Nazi Germany based on their rather vague education on the Nazis and what they did. I assume you can cite where the US is doing the following-
-suspended the Constitution and the rule of law
-military and government employees swearing personal allegiance to the President
-creation of a national indoctrination policy
-creation of a secret police force (and no I’m not refering to undercover law enforcement agents)
-utilization of the populace to inform on those who don’t follow the party line
-a private military belonging to the ruling political party
-voter intimidation (as in “vote for X or we’ll send you to the hospital”)
-forced sterilization of the mentally ill, “non-pure”, and other “undesirables”
-creation of concentration camps for said “undesirables” and “non-pure” citizens
-seizing of property of, imprisonment of, and acts of violence against said “undesirables” and “non-pure” citizens by government employees and citizens without said individuals having any protections of the law
-use of slave labor
-violation of international arms control agreements
-invasion of other countries for territorial gain
-near deification of the President
-the switch to fascism (according to the actual definition, not the buzz word definition used by TV and radio "talking heads)
-a one party political system

As for the number of wars the US has started in the last two decades, that would be 1, Iraq; and given the acts of war Iraq committed against US aircraft enforcing UN sanctions, Iraq’s violation of said sanctions (with the help of France, Germany, and Russia), and Iraq’s violation of international law concerning WMDs (yes, Iraq had WMDs) it could be argued that we’ve started 0. But that aside, please tell me how this has any bearing on a discussion concerning North Korea.
 
As an aside, Father Emil Kapaun, who died in a North Korean POW camp has his cause for canonization going forward.

Now, North Korea threatens to nuke the U.S., while starving their own people under a regime both cruel and unworkable. It’s a disaster of a regime. They would have been far better off today had they simply overthrown communism and gone over to the western side and joined with South Korea, which is prospering.

I’m tryiing to figure out what there is to “support” about the regime of North Korea. I support the people and wish better for them than the government they have now.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
Regarding North Korea as a good country is stupid…but not america? How many wars have “we” started in the last two decades? Obviously the majority of people living here aren’t responsible, but our government and higher ranking officers of our military have so much blood on their hands they have hell to answer for (literally). North Korea’s government is an affront to peace in the region and Kim Jong Un (sp) is questionably mentally unstable, but what about obama? He has no problem with killing children in the womb no matter how old they are. I always get put off by americans who speak ill of other countries when our very own country is the 21st century version of nazi germany.
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There is a thread about this topic with links to important information written by a Pope.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=453567

The North Koreans have a right to have their own land so they can feed of it. It cant be forbidden to eat the fruits of the land. That is what happened in Ukraine in the early 1930’s. Now it is called “Holodomor”. The people have turned to cannibalism in North Korea to survive, like it was in Ukraine. That is not good.

There is evidence that the Sovietunion had a majority of people that was not Christian but Jewish (which openly promoted atheism in the country). In Pinsk, an east European city, there the churches were demolished/burned while the synagogue was left intact. Here is an educative website about the events there:
rymaszewski.iinet.net.au/5soviets.html
Then feminism is what was started as a left-wing ideology as a part of global communism.
 
Okowita said:
There is a thread about this topic with links to important information written by a Pope.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=453567

The North Koreans have a right to have their own land so they can feed of it. It cant be forbidden to eat the fruits of the land. That is what happened in Ukraine in the early 1930’s. Now it is called “Holodomor”. The people have turned to cannibalism in North Korea to survive, like it was in Ukraine. That is not good.

You wonder why Obama is pro-abortion and it must be because his Marxist education was funded/supported by an American Rabbi. There is evidence that the Sovietunion had a majority of people that was not Christian but Jewish (which openly promoted atheism in the country). In Pinsk, an east European city, there the churches were demolished/burned while the synagogue was left intact. Here is an educative website about the events there:
rymaszewski.iinet.net.au/5soviets.html
Then feminism is what was started as a left-wing ideology as a part of global communism.
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Edit: I thinked about this and saw the link to the Garden of Eden and the punishment for breaking the law. Our Lord did throw out the law breakers from the Garden of Eden. If the leadership in North Korea would be a good leadership. Then they would throw out their hungry lawbreakers too. Now instead they hold them as slaves which is more like the worst place there is.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
I can’t understand people from the US who answer a question such as this while slamming their own country.
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It could have something to do with the mass infanticide being purpetrated here. Of course there are other reasons too, secularism, the HHS mandate, etc.
George_Stegmeir said:
I can assure you that you are indeed fortunate to live in North America, especially in the US because, if you lived in most of the countries of this world and spoke out against them as you have done on this forum, you would be subjected to “the knock on your door in the middle of the night”.
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You’re right America is the only non-totalitarian country on Earth. :rolleyes:
oldcatholicguy said:
Interesting, I get put off by people who claim the US is Nazi Germany based on their rather vague education on the Nazis and what they did. I assume you can cite where the US is doing the following-
-suspended the Constitution and the rule of law
-military and government employees swearing personal allegiance to the President
-creation of a national indoctrination policy
-creation of a secret police force (and no I’m not refering to undercover law enforcement agents)
-utilization of the populace to inform on those who don’t follow the party line
-a private military belonging to the ruling political party
-voter intimidation (as in “vote for X or we’ll send you to the hospital”)
-forced sterilization of the mentally ill, “non-pure”, and other “undesirables”
-creation of concentration camps for said “undesirables” and “non-pure” citizens
-seizing of property of, imprisonment of, and acts of violence against said “undesirables” and “non-pure” citizens by government employees and citizens without said individuals having any protections of the law
-use of slave labor
-violation of international arms control agreements
-invasion of other countries for territorial gain
-near deification of the President
-the switch to fascism (according to the actual definition, not the buzz word definition used by TV and radio "talking heads)
-a one party political system

As for the number of wars the US has started in the last two decades, that would be 1, Iraq; and given the acts of war Iraq committed against US aircraft enforcing UN sanctions, Iraq’s violation of said sanctions (with the help of France, Germany, and Russia), and Iraq’s violation of international law concerning WMDs (yes, Iraq had WMDs) it could be argued that we’ve started 0. But that aside, please tell me how this has any bearing on a discussion concerning North Korea.
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First, we’ve started two wars in the last two decades. Second, Patrick was probably referencing the aborticaust when he compared the US to Nazi Germany.
Okowita said:
There is a thread about this topic with links to important information written by a Pope.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=453567

The North Koreans have a right to have their own land so they can feed of it. It cant be forbidden to eat the fruits of the land. That is what happened in Ukraine in the early 1930’s. Now it is called “Holodomor”. The people have turned to cannibalism in North Korea to survive, like it was in Ukraine. That is not good.

You wonder why Obama is pro-abortion and it must be because his Marxist education was funded/supported by an American Rabbi. There is evidence that the Sovietunion had a majority of people that was not Christian but Jewish (which openly promoted atheism in the country). In Pinsk, an east European city, there the churches were demolished/burned while the synagogue was left intact. Here is an educative website about the events there:
rymaszewski.iinet.net.au/5soviets.html
Then feminism is what was started as a left-wing ideology as a part of global communism.
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You’re right. It’s the Jews fault. :rolleyes:
 
JD27076 said:
I don’t support North Korea, but I know others who do.

And one of those are Catholic.

Is a Catholic allowed to support North Korea?
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Let’s rephrase that question. “Can a reasonable human being support in any way the horrid mess of injustice that is North Korea?”

No.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
Regarding North Korea as a good country is stupid…but not america? How many wars have “we” started in the last two decades? Obviously the majority of people living here aren’t responsible, but our government and higher ranking officers of our military have so much blood on their hands they have hell to answer for (literally). North Korea’s government is an affront to peace in the region and Kim Jong Un (sp) is questionably mentally unstable, but what about obama? He has no problem with killing children in the womb no matter how old they are. I always get put off by americans who speak ill of other countries when our very own country is the 21st century version of nazi germany.
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While I will admit and grant you that America has its share of problems, I think it is absolutely ridiculous to compare the US to Nazi Germany.
 
I know cathoics that support the korean people by sending bibles and rosaries ect ect…
I support them by donating bibles to send over. Ohters support them by crossing there dangerous borders to deliver them. I do not have that courage. God bless and protect them.

jesus g
 
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