Can a Catholic support North Korea?

[devoutchristian]

While I will admit and grant you that America has its share of problems, I think it is absolutely ridiculous to compare the US to Nazi Germany.

There are 50000000 people missing in the US. Where did they go?

 

[CatholicGeek1]

There are 50000000 people missing in the US. Where did they go?

I think your number is off, that would be 1/6th of the population.

Where are you trying to say they went?

 

[JimG]

There are 50000000 people missing in the US. Where did they go?

Yes, 50 million are missing. We have lost a significant percentage of the last several generations to abortion. They are the brothers and sisters who were never allowed to live.

 

[devoutchristian]

I think your number is off, that would be 1/6th of the population.

Where are you trying to say they went?

They were murdered in abortuaries.

 

[CatholicGeek1]

They were murdered in abortuaries.

OK but that was not done by the government. Allowed by government, yes but not done or mandated by the government as was the case in Nazi Germany.

 

[devoutchristian]

OK but that was not done by the government. Allowed by government, yes but not done or mandated by the government as was the case in Nazi Germany.

He compared (rather than claimed to be exactly alike) America to Nazi Germany, ergo a similarity is sufficient to justify his claim as being non-rediculous.

 

[mangy_dog]

I don’t support North Korea, but I know others who do.

And one of those are Catholic.

Is a Catholic allowed to support North Korea?

With prayers, yes.

Can’t or shouldn’t support with anything else. NK is a communist dictatorship-can’t support communism.

Only our prayers so that this man and the leaders of this country renounce communism a renouncing Satan.

Prayers.

 

[JimG]

How about if we support SOUTH Korea? I can’t see any reason to support the brutal Communist dictatorship in the north.

 

[CarolNoel]

I pray for the people of North Korea, but do not support their govenment.

 

[PeterGStanley]

While I will admit and grant you that America has its share of problems, I think it is absolutely ridiculous to compare the US to Nazi Germany.

Its called Godwin’s law “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”

 

[Zekariya]

I pray for the people of North Korea, but do not support their govenment.

This is where I stand as well.

 

[aux1]

Interesting, I get put off by people who claim the US is Nazi Germany based on their rather vague education on the Nazis and what they did. I assume you can cite where the US is doing the following-
-suspended the Constitution and the rule of law

Gitmo. Drones. Legal assasination of citizens.

-creation of a national indoctrination policy

Media. School system.

-a private military belonging to the ruling political party

Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

-seizing of property of, imprisonment of, and acts of violence against said “undesirables” and “non-pure” citizens by government employees and citizens without said individuals having any protections of the law

War on Drugs.

-use of slave labor

Illegal immigrants: too illegal to have rights, but not illegal enough to be rounded up and deported.

-violation of international arms control agreements

ABM treaty.

-invasion of other countries for territorial gain

Afghanistan (opium). Iraq (oil). Kosovo (rare earth elements). Libya (water).

-a one party political system

You have two political parties which are the same except for their position on abortion, which is a manufactured controversy anyway.

 

[Fairwinds]

The thread is an interesting example of the tu quoque fallacy, but back to the real topic.

Why would anyone want to “support” North Korea? I’m assuming this means the government, rather than the North Koreans, who deserve better than they’re getting.

F.

 

[Oxford_Cleric]

Gitmo. Drones. Legal assasination of citizens.

Media. School system.

Blackwater/Xe/Academi.

War on Drugs.

Illegal immigrants: too illegal to have rights, but not illegal enough to be rounded up and deported.

ABM treaty.

Afghanistan (opium). Iraq (oil). Kosovo (rare earth elements). Libya (water).

You have two political parties which are the same except for their position on abortion, which is a manufactured controversy anyway.

I’m going off topic here, but I am completely fed up with snipes at the school system. I am a public school teacher and I can absolutely guarantee you that neither I nor anybody on our campus is a Goebbles-style propaganda arm of the Obama Administration, or any other. I’ve got more than enough to do during my day, including teaching students how to think critically about the crapulous sewer that is the “media” :banghead::banghead::banghead:

As for North Korea: support the people, reject the regime, abhor the infantile warmongering.

 

[George_Stegmeir]

Just out of curiosity, aux1, are you an American in the US, or are you just a garden variety Brit or Canadian anti-American?

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Just out of curiosity, aux1, are you an American in the US, or are you just a garden variety Brit or Canadian anti-American?

Seriously, you made cherry coke spew from my nose! lolololol. 'Murica!

I can’t support North Korea. I won’t support North Korea.

 

[Okowita]

Here below is a forumpost that was written by me in April this year. The bold text that is colored in red is not true according to facts that I have read.

There is a thread about this topic with links to important information written by a Pope.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=453567

The North Koreans have a right to have their own land so they can feed of it. It cant be forbidden to eat the fruits of the land. That is what happened in Ukraine in the early 1930’s. Now it is called “Holodomor”. The people have turned to cannibalism in North Korea to survive, like it was in Ukraine. That is not good.

There is evidence that the Sovietunion had a majority of people that was not Christian but Jewish (which openly promoted atheism in the country). In Pinsk, an east European city, there the churches were demolished/burned while the synagogue was left intact. Here is an educative website about the events there:
rymaszewski.iinet.net.au/5soviets.html
Then feminism is what was started as a left-wing ideology as a part of global communism.

The jewish population was a minority in Sovietunion. Joseph Stalin (leader of the communist party 1919-1953) decided to name an area to: Jewish Autonomous Oblast. This territory is close to North Korea. In the Communist party there were a majority of jews and they talked jiddisch. There were prosecutions against baptized Christians during the 20th century. In this century, the 21st, there are still persecutions of Christians.

Links to the encyclopedia Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_stalin
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

 

[JimG]

Interesting that anyone could think that the communist dictatorship of North Korea is worth supporting. Just yesterday I was reading a book about Father Emil Kapaun, (“A Shepherd in Combat Boots”), a Catholic priest who volunteered as an Army chaplain. He ultimately died in a North Korean prisoner of war camp, after ministering to the other prisoners there as long as his health held out. One also gets a first hand view of the war from the standpoint of the infantryman.

While the NK government was brutal then, it seems to be even more brutal today, even more committed to unrelenting propaganda, belligerence, and suppression of its people. The Church opposed and still opposes communism for very good reasons.