Can a Catholic work in hospitals that perform abortions?

[kage_ar]

There are a lot of reasons she may legitimately want to. Perhaps the pay is better and she wants to send her kids to Catholic schools. Maybe her elderly father lives nearby and she wants to be able to visit more frequently. Maybe there aren’t any Catholic hospitals in the vincinity (or Catholic hospitals that are hiring) and she just needs work.

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Good pay is a reason to work where they kill babies? What if Planned Parenthood is hiring and they pay great?

 

[Whitacre_Girl]

Good pay is a reason to work where they kill babies? What if Planned Parenthood is hiring and they pay great?

Actually this is a little different than working for planned parenthood. Planned Parenthood only offers two services that are remotely moral: physical exams, and breast cancer screening. Their money goes largely into promoting abortion, birth control, and immoral sexual practices, both to the public, and politically.

Working for a hospital is completely different. One could serve as a skilled nurse saving lives in the cardiac ward and do NOTHING even remotely related to abortion. And having strong pro-life advocates on the “front line” as it were, is very powerful. People NEED to be confronted about this.

 

[celticsfan1983]

Let’s then ask, Can you be part of a military that tortures prisoners and one that
bombs women and children over and over again by mistake?
The US Military is guilty of this.
If we are a people of personal responsibility let it start with those who have the
guns, bombs, fighter jets and bombers…and a CIA better funded than the SS
or the Gastopo was in the 1930’s.
Can you imagine if Israel had multiple hit squads in the US in order to kill
Nazi’s who came here after the war? That is what the CIA is doing in the middle east
and Europe.

What if my neighbor is guilty of terrible atrocities, but is found innocent and lives on my street? Am I guilty because I won’t move, and am somehow standing up for him by refusing to get away from him?

That’s not a good analogy Palmharbor

 

[budgie2]

I know this doesn’t answer your thread but abortions should certainly not be performed in hospitals and try to find a Catholic hospital if possible, but otherwise make sure there’s a conscience clause. In Britain, backstreet abortionists came from the criminal underworld, alongside drug addicts and prostitutes/pimps. They were the lowest of the low in society and then they were employed by the state and given a nice image. They still have a very low level of morality in their family and operate outside moral norms. Some of them hire thugs to protect themselves and practise child selling, child abuse, own love which is sex with closest relative either young or old, aswell as thuggery. Don’t have anything to do with them if you can. I’m apparently related to one who is now dead which was something I didn’t know until I uncovered my family history.

 

[budgie2]

You should try to find a Catholic hospital and if not make sure there’s a conscience clause. Abortions should not be performed in hospitals. Backstreet abortion was part of the criminal underworld alongside pimps, prostitution and drug dealing and it was given a nice image and funded by the state. It still has certain elements of the underworld in it and the people that perform abortions aswell as those who have them sometimes have very low levels of morality and certainly do not live according to Christian morals in many cases.

 

[kage_ar]

The choice is not “Catholic hospital, abortion mill or be unemployed…” any place big enough for a hospital is going to have medical clinics, doctors offices, nursing homes, etc - all of these need nurses.

 

[nodito]

Good pay is a reason to work where they kill babies? What if Planned Parenthood is hiring and they pay great?

How far removed does one have to be without participating in evil? Could someone not also ask, “Good pay is a reason to live in a place like the United States where they kill babies?” I think you’d be right in saying that the analogy isn’t perfect, because moving to a country where abortion is illegal (the Philippines, for example) would entail extreme hardship and expense. But this only serves to demonstrate that there is some balance between avoiding working in or with places that do evil and meeting your personal obligations to your family and community.

The choice is not “Catholic hospital, abortion mill or be unemployed…” any place big enough for a hospital is going to have medical clinics, doctors offices, nursing homes, etc - all of these need nurses.

That’s the thing, we don’t know. While it may be true that the OP could find employment elsewhere, that’s not always the case. Perhaps she is trained as a cardiac nurse practitioner and there simply aren’t any doctor’s offices, nursing homes, or medical clinics hiring nurses with her background.

 

[davidrasch]

Here is an expansion on this topic. Can a catholic work at a university in departments where G.L.B.T. practices are celebrated?

 

[alveolate]

from my limited understanding of discernment, if there are no Catholic options, that in itself could be a clear sign from God: He feels you are ready to accept the challenge of working in a secular workplace exposed to lax morality.

to me, there are two fantastic reasons to work in a non-Catholic hospital: evangelisation and testifying. now, i do not mean go around condemning ppl - i think here ppl understand Catholic evangelisation as being a model Christian and allowing ppl to be drawn to us by our loving example. testifying, however, would be somewhat less passive - in that you speak up when moral infractions are committed. there are different levels of being active in testifying too: you could be the type who will speak to ppl-in-charge (aiming to effect change at higher levels of management) or you could simply be explaining to your fellow colleagues why you think abortion is wrong (simply being informative). you could also gather fellow pro-lifers to pray for aborted babies everyday. these are some very great things that could potentially be done even in non-Catholic hospitals - of course, they can also be done in Catholic hospitals where needed.

the crux being that being so sure of your faith and living it out so tangibly outside the shelter of a Catholic environment requires a good prayer life and possibly a spiritual director whom you meet with regularly. if the circumstantial signs point to the secular hospital as the best choice for employment - whether there’s a choice or not - the challenge to strengthen one’s faith life is still a constant. but if you have to face a greater challenge, do make sure you are prepared!

for instance, you’ll have the prayers of this forum, i foresee… =) the Lord bless you and keep you, no matter where you choose to work!

 

[kage_ar]

Here is an expansion on this topic. Can a catholic work at a university in departments where G.L.B.T. practices are celebrated?

By celebrated, do you mean that homosexual people are employed and treated with respect? We are called to respect all people.

If by celebrated you mean they encourage people to have homosexual sex in the office, then, by all means a Christian could not work there.

 

[alveolate]

care to give a real-life example of a hospital that “celebrates” GLBT? i can understand tolerate GLBT, but for any workplace which is supposed to remain neutral, it must seem really odd “celebrating” any particular lifestyle.

then again, most companies do have Family Day events… which would somewhat isolate/ostracise singles… hmm.

if the “celebration” is limited to ad hoc events like a gay pride day or something, i guess we could always sit out if its uncomfortable. alternatively, we could read up more on what gay pride events actually celebrate: the identity? the coming out? the emotional scars? the surviving persecution? or do they only celebrate the unnatural sex? if sitting out may cause scandal in terms of being labelled a homophobe, the challenge may be to clearly state your own case - respect for people of different orientation while steering clear of the sinfulness.

in short: as long as your conscience is clear and you have sought your best to represent your ideas to your colleagues, go ahead and work there. but if things do get too difficult or impossible, do not compromise your beliefs or piety for the sake of political correctness - we may tolerate people, but never tolerate untruth.

take Ms Carrie Prejean’s example to heart!