Can a person become a priest when they have a well controlled mental illness?

[catharina]

I agree as I said. I have a friend who thinks being a priest is nuts and thinks it is an awful way of life. Obviously he is not called. Most men feel called to married life. Some are not good at it. But feel called to that way of life. Some men feel called to single celibate life. I think there is a seed planted in everyone whether it is married life single life religious life. You obviously are called to the religious life praise be to God!!! I feel called to diocesan priesthood. We already established the fact it is not a right. What is a right is the freedom to discern and be allowed to discern. It isn’t like there 1000s of men applying to a given diocese.I am very very grateful thankfull and very humbled that I was accepted and I am scared while at the sametime excited. I don’t know if I will be a priest and need to just keep my head down and do what is told and trust in Christ. But at least I have been finally given the chance to discern in a much great capacity than just being shoved out the door because of education. **It is wrong and it is not fair that people get turned away because I couldn’t afford college and had to help support the family business. I guess my whole point is I have empathy and I know what the OP is going through being constantly rejected than given a chance. It is easy for us to say it isn’t a right or it is this or that. but the fact of the matter is that it don’t make it any easier for someone that keeps getting shown the door. **

If I am truly not called I am most positive that the seminary will let me know in a short order. I pray you make it and I ask you to pray for me! I need it. And finaly we are mostly in agreement. I get your poinr and I agree that it is not a right to ordination. It is a special gift just as it is not a right for you to marry your highschool sweetheart, she has the right to reject you. Just as the Church has that same right. But when you keep getting rejected before you get to first base, is like your highschool sweetheart’s Father telling you no when you are of age and stands in the way of you courting your sweetheart, that I have a problem with. I hope the OP gets his chance and God heals him. Mental diseases are controllable with medication just like a heart condition or diabetes. Let’s all pray that the OP gets his chance to discern in seminary. God Bless Scoob.

Bolded above: despite your constant protests, what you’re stating above is an
expression of your feelings. It has nothing to do with Canon Law or the policies
of various seminaries.

Quoting Brother David again:

"Our personal feelings as to a call are just that, feelings. They may be a sign of a call but they do not mean that we do have a call."

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

You obviously are called to the religious life praise be to God!!!

Actually I feel a call to religious life and the priesthood. We will not know if I truly have such a call until my superior calls me forward to solemn vows. It is a hard thing but it is a fact.

What is a right is the freedom to discern and be allowed to discern. It isn’t like there 1000s of men applying to a given diocese.

I am going to stop you here. No one has any such right. Discernment is not a one way street. It is not just us we do the discerning. The Church though the bishops and religious superiors are also in a process of discernment about us. How you can say that the Church has no right to say that someone does not have a call to it?

It does not matter how many are applying, if the Church knows that you do not have a call to it why should it waste the time, money, and effort to allow you to discern?

You, and I, did not have a call to the dioceses and religious communities that may have turned us down, why should they be forced to allow us to discern with them? Not only is it a waste of their time, money, and effort, but it is also a waste of our time and effort.

You keep saying that you agree that there is not right but then what you go on to say is that you do believe that there is a right.

I can see we are just talking in circles so I am going to move on from this.

I will pray for you, please pray for me.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

What is a right is the freedom to discern and be allowed to discern. It isn’t like there 1000s of men applying to a given diocese.

There is one more thing I need to express. Something that I hope and pray you never have to experience.

Sometimes there are those in formation who believe as you do. To allow just about anyone into the formation process with the plan of not letting them move on but to allow them to discern inside of a formation process.

There are individuals that are allowed into formation in this manner that are so toxic to the formation of others that it makes the formation and the discernment into a hell that, as I said, I hope and pray you never have to go through.

I would finish with that men such as this are not always “messed up” it is just that they do not have a calling (even though they feel they have one) and their behavior (though normal and acceptable in society) is not appropriate for formation. It causes unnecessary stress in the everyday life and then when they are finally asked to leave it causes even more drama and issues. They can even cause such issues that men who really do have a calling leave because of it.

And that is my last word on this topic.

 

[catharina]

There is one more thing I need to express. Something that I hope and pray you never have to experience.

Sometimes there are those in formation who believe as you do. To allow just about anyone into the formation process with the plan of not letting them move on but to allow them to discern inside of a formation process.

There are individuals that are allowed into formation in this manner that are so toxic to the formation of others that it makes the formation and the discernment into a hell that, as I said, I hope and pray you never have to go through.

I would finish with that men such as this are not always “messed up” it is just that they do not have a calling (even though they feel they have one) and their behavior (though normal and acceptable in society) is not appropriate for formation. It causes unnecessary stress in the everyday life and then when they are finally asked to leave it causes even more drama and issues. They can even cause such issues that men who really do have a calling leave because of it.

And that is my last word on this topic.

Worthwhile addition, Brother David!

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

Bolded above: despite your constant protests, what you’re stating above is an
expression of your feelings. It has nothing to do with Canon Law or the policies
of various seminaries.

Quoting Brother David again:

"Our personal feelings as to a call are just that, feelings. They may be a sign of a call but they do not mean that we do have a call."

I am not going to argue I said I agree with Br David and it is my fortitude and trust in Christ that kept me going till I was led to the right diocese. Whether you say I am protesting or I am this or that. I have empathy for others that are goign through what I went through and I don’t want to forget where I was and be constantly thankful for the fact that I FINALY am able to keep discerning my call. You may not agree or you may, still there are others that have had their hearts broken and been very hurt and no matter what we feel it don’t take the pain away from folks that are turned away. I am not going to speak on this anymore.I am just going to say I know how the OP feels as i have been there myself and I never ever want to forget where I was. It is so easy to forget the bad times when the good times start to happen or our dreams finaly come true. God bless and pray for me Scoob.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

I am not going to argue I said I agree with Br David and it is my fortitude and trust in Christ that kept me going till I was led to the right diocese. Whether you say I am protesting or I am this or that. I have empathy for others that are goign through what I went through and I don’t want to forget where I was and be constantly thankful for the fact that I FINALY am able to keep discerning my call. You may not agree or you may, still there are others that have had their hearts broken and been very hurt and no matter what we feel it don’t take the pain away from folks that are turned away. I am not going to speak on this anymore.I am just going to say I know how the OP feels as i have been there myself and I never ever want to forget where I was. It is so easy to forget the bad times when the good times start to happen or our dreams finaly come true. God bless and pray for me Scoob.

You do not agree. You chose not to listen.

The only solution to the issue you state is to ordain everyone who claims a feeling of a calling. It is to admit everyone to religious life who claims to have a feeling of a calling.

This would include the ordination of priestesses as some women claim a feeling of a calling to the priesthood and they have broken hearts that they are not allowed to follow this “calling”.

As I said before, which you chose to not hear, Our personal feelings as to a call are just that, feelings. They may be a sign of a call but they do not mean that we do have a call and those feelings do not entitle anyone to any right to any form of discernment within a formation environment.

You are wrong on this.

 

[catharina]

I am not going to argue I said I agree with Br David and it is my fortitude and trust in Christ that kept me going till I was led to the right diocese. Whether you say I am protesting or I am this or that. I have empathy for others that are goign through what I went through and I don’t want to forget where I was and be constantly thankful for the fact that I FINALY am able to keep discerning my call. You may not agree or you may, still there are others that have had their hearts broken and been very hurt and no matter what we feel it don’t take the pain away from folks that are turned away. I am not going to speak on this anymore.I am just going to say I know how the OP feels as i have been there myself and I never ever want to forget where I was. It is so easy to forget the bad times when the good times start to happen or our dreams finaly come true. God bless and pray for me Scoob.

You don’t seem to realize that while you lean on “sympathy” for those
who have been rejected (for now) you spout antipathy for the policies of
the same Church that you proclaim you wish to serve as a priest!

That’s a rather mighty contradiction whether you choose to recognize it or not.

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

Ok I am going to try one more time.

I agree with Br David that it is not a right to be ordained!!! I never said it was a right to be ordained!!!
I said it is a right to be allowed to discern NOT ordination. I would be a fool to think that I am going to be ordained when I have 6 years ahead of me at the very least. A lot can happen in that time. I may get hit by a bus. But the great hope IS ordination.
If I am NOT called then at least I got to find out on my own by going to seminary not being shoved out the door. Also I have said many times on this thread that if you still feel called or that tug and you pray about it and it still won’t leave you then you have a duty to search to the end if God is calling you. As in my case the desire never left no matter how hard I tried to get rid of it and prayed it away. But I agree that ordination is not a right. But I didn’t accept being rejected and found a diocese 100 miles away so I am close to home. God is amazing. to the OP Don’t give up keep trying till God tells you otherwise PERIOD!!!
Now I have been given a chance to finish my discernment by entering seminary. Now maybe God is allowing me to go to seminary to for sure KNOW that I am NOT called. So when I say I agree with Br David I do when it comes to Vows Ordination. I hope I cleared some of this stuff. If not sorry.
Whether I am wrong or right, It is very hurtful depressing when you keep getting rejected at the first meeting. I can’t help my feelings whether you feel I am right or not. IT is what it is. Now if I am not called and the seminary Church and myself feel i am not called. Praise be to God!!! I for sure know and can get on to what God IS calling me to. Thanks Br David for any prayers you send my way as I really need them God Bless Scoob.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

Ok I am going to try one more time.

I agree with Br David that it is not a right to be ordained!!! I never said it was a right to be ordained!!!
I said it is a right to be allowed to discern NOT ordination. I would be a fool to think that I am going to be ordained when I have 6 years ahead of me at the very least. A lot can happen in that time. I may get hit by a bus. But the great hope IS ordination.

There is no such right.

If I am NOT called then at least I got to find out on my own by going to seminary not being shoved out the door. Also I have said many times on this thread that if you still feel called or that tug and you pray about it and it still won’t leave you then you have a duty to search to the end if God is calling you. As in my case the desire never left no matter how hard I tried to get rid of it and prayed it away. But I agree that ordination is not a right.

But what happens if you still feel called and your rector and vocations team tell you that you are not?

But I didn’t accept being rejected and found a diocese 100 miles away so I am close to home. God is amazing. to the OP Don’t give up keep trying till God tells you otherwise PERIOD!!!

When does God tell you this? Is it all a matter of how your feel?

Now I have been given a chance to finish my discernment by entering seminary. Now maybe God is allowing me to go to seminary to for sure KNOW that I am NOT called. So when I say I agree with Br David I do when it comes to Vows Ordination. I hope I cleared some of this stuff. If not sorry.
Whether I am wrong or right, It is very hurtful depressing when you keep getting rejected at the first meeting. I can’t help my feelings whether you feel I am right or not. IT is what it is. Now if I am not called and the seminary Church and myself feel i am not called. Praise be to God!!! I for sure know and can get on to what God IS calling me to. Thanks Br David for any prayers you send my way as I really need them God Bless Scoob.

The personal feeling of a calling is part of it but it is not the only part.

From reading what you have said here you seem to put the emphasis on what the person feels instead of what the Church thinks and observes.

Again going by what you say everyone should be entered into formation regardless of any guidelines that may be present even women for the priesthood, after all some do claim a feeling of being called to it.

You also totally ignored my comments on how some allowed into formation who should not be there poison the discernment of those who are called to be there. Your focus seems to be on the individual and their feelings. This is not true discernment.

Some people who feel a call do not have one. There are things in their lives that show us this. We do not ignore the past histories of candidates. The list of mental issues that the OP gives makes it a very hard hurdle to enter into candidacy for the secular priesthood and will most likely absolutely disqualify him from religious life. Not everyone is called, even when they feel that they are. Many try to use religious life and the priesthood as a place to run away from society. From some of the posts by the OP I get that impression, even though he says that is not the case. If I get that impression from a couple of posts I am sure that this is cropping up in any vocational application process that he is going though,

The best we can advise anyone who wants to discern a vocation is to get a spiritual director. We should not be telling them that their feeling of a calling entitles them to a right to discern inside of a formation community, not only is that wrong but it is harmful.

 

[catharina]

There is no such right.

But what happens if you still feel called and your rector and vocations team tell you that you are not?

When does God tell you this? Is it all a matter of how your feel?

The personal feeling of a calling is part of it but it is not the only part.

From reading what you have said here you seem to put the emphasis on what the person feels instead of what the Church thinks and observes.

Again going by what you say everyone should be entered into formation regardless of any guidelines that may be present even women for the priesthood, after all some do claim a feeling of being called to it.

You also totally ignored my comments on how some allowed into formation who should not be there poison the discernment of those who are called to be there. Your focus seems to be on the individual and their feelings. This is not true discernment.

Some people who feel a call do not have one. There are things in their lives that show us this. We do not ignore the past histories of candidates. The list of mental issues that the OP gives makes it a very hard hurdle to enter into candidacy for the secular priesthood and will most likely absolutely disqualify him from religious life. Not everyone is called, even when they feel that they are. Many try to use religious life and the priesthood as a place to run away from society. From some of the posts by the OP I get that impression, even though he says that is not the case. If I get that impression from a couple of posts I am sure that this is cropping up in any vocational application process that he is going though,

The best we can advise anyone who wants to discern a vocation is to get a spiritual director. We should not be telling them that their feeling of a calling entitles them to a right to discern inside of a formation community, not only is that wrong but it is harmful. It also sounds enormously disrespectful to the Church, to the process that Holy Mother Church has put in place.

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

even women for the priesthoodQUOTE

absolutly NOT!! only men should be priests only men.

If I am told by the Church the rector or bishop I am not called. Fine at least I was able to discern in seminary. and then I know beyond any doubt that I am not called and can go on with my life and seek what God wants. Yes I feel that God calls I feel that there has to be some desire for what vocaiton you are called to. As for me I am not attracted to married life single life nor religious life,

I would like your opinion on one thing, Do you think it is God that is allowing me to get this far?? to be accepted by my diocese and seminary? or is it dumb luck?
we are in agreement at least that ordination is not a right.

When I finaly got past the first meeting and it lasted three hours (not 5 minutes after driving 3000 mile round trip on my dime) and then was allowed the next step which was physcological test. Passed that, then the next step was the 4 person meeting. Not everyone gets past the second step. If I didn’t get past the second step then I would have been ok with that, But at least I was allowed to go as far as allowed by the process, I am now accused of allowing women to ordination and wierdos and all that, NO I don’t think that every Tom Richard and Harry or Sally be allowed to ordination. But sometimes I think that people are turned away too quick,and like the OP don’t give up if he felt that he is shown the door a little to quick.The OP if he passes the Physcological profile then on to the next step. I certainly DO NOT agree with women being priests let’s get that straight!!! Not that women can’t hold powerful positions in the church like running a Catholic School or Hostpitals. Talk about responsibility. Just like men can’t have babies just isn’t possible just as women being priests. Not going to happen never.
Scoob.

 

[catharina]

even women for the priesthoodQUOTE

absolutly NOT!! only men should be priests only men.

If I am told by the Church the rector or bishop I am not called. Fine at least I was able to discern in seminary. and then I know beyond any doubt that I am not called and can go on with my life and seek what God wants. Yes I feel that God calls I feel that there has to be some desire for what vocaiton you are called to. As for me I am not attracted to married life single life nor religious life,

I would like your opinion on one thing, Do you think it is God that is allowing me to get this far?? to be accepted by my diocese and seminary? or is it dumb luck?
we are in agreement at least that ordination is not a right.

When I finaly got past the first meeting and it lasted three hours (not 5 minutes after driving 3000 mile round trip on my dime) and then was allowed the next step which was physcological test. Passed that, then the next step was the 4 person meeting. Not everyone gets past the second step. If I didn’t get past the second step then I would have been ok with that, But at least I was allowed to go as far as allowed by the process, I am now accused of allowing women to ordination and wierdos and all that Very dramatic claim - but completely untrue.

NO I don’t think that every Tom Richard and Harry or Sally be allowed to ordination. But sometimes I think that people are turned away too quick,and like the OP don’t give up if he felt that he is shown the door a little to quick.The OP if he passes the Physcological profile then on to the next step. I certainly DO NOT agree with women being priests let’s get that straight!!! Not that women can’t hold powerful positions in the church like running a Catholic School or Hostpitals. Talk about responsibility. Just like men can’t have babies just isn’t possible just as women being priests. Not going to happen never.
Scoob.

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

even women for the priesthoodQUOTE

absolutly NOT!! only men should be priests only men.

If I am told by the Church the rector or bishop I am not called. Fine at least I was able to discern in seminary. and then I know beyond any doubt that I am not called and can go on with my life and seek what God wants. Yes I feel that God calls I feel that there has to be some desire for what vocaiton you are called to. As for me I am not attracted to married life single life nor religious life,

But what about those men who do discern in a seminary who are told no but still feel that they are called?

You have put an overemphasis on the feelings of the individual. I also believe that you have a misunderstanding of what discernment is. You did state that discernment starts at the seminary, that is not so. No one has a right to discern in a seminary (formation community). Religious do not even go to the seminary until years after entry into the religious life. Some never go.

It seems from reading your posts, as I said, you put an overemphasis on personal feelings. You also seem to think everyone should get to the application process. So I take it you do not like the guidelines that a diocese/religious community may have. Is it your opinion that no matter who comes forward they should be allowed to apply? Again, that would be a waste of resources and effort.

I never said you were for women ordination, but you emphasis on feeling does lead that way. If the point for you is that everyone who feels a call should get to explore that call in a formation setting then what is to stop a woman who feels a call to the priesthood? or a married man in the Latin Church? or a divorced man with out an annulment? or any other person who does not meet the criteria set by the diocese/religious community?

One further question, what gives you the right to judge these dioceses/religious communities and the criteria they set?

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

One further question, what gives you the right to judge these dioceses/religious communities and the criteria they set?

I have no rights as you say. I don’t judge them. I just know from MY experience what I went through that it was painful at times but I never accepted defeat or accepted blanket statements from diocese that didn’t get past the education. The diocese where my home is has a bishop that won’t look at second career vocations. Well we only have 6 seminarians. Where as the diocese that I am discerning for has 22 and growing. My parish priest is 85 years old and has to say Mass at 5 parishes becasue we have a low number of seminarians. his order told our bishop after he retires they won’t send another priest ,why?? because they are short themselves, what do we do? I guess only have Mass once a month? just like in thrid world countries?? when we have plenty of men myu age not old but not 20 but willing to see if God is calling them? Who gets the bad end of the stick? we do as a parish when we have to have a celebration without a priest. RIghts or no rights the parishoners get the bad end of the stick. We don’t have the luxury of two to four priests per parish like the goldend old days. We don’t have the vocations we had after the great depression. Some diocese are embracing second career vocations and Sacred Heart has been the forerunner (sp?) of second career vocations even with just a highschool deploma like myself. Some diocese and some religious don’t embrace second career vocations, I may not like it and I don’t agree with it, But it is THEIR right to accept who they take or don’t as much as it is my right to find a diocese that will accept me.
As for others that are not called and still feel they do? who is to say they aren’t. If not I hope they and me if I am included find our correct vocaiton and do God’s will.
Feelings we all have feelings. I am sure you did when you were accepted in your order. Now you’re in praise be to God. I am in Praise be to God. Now lets hope we are called and make it to ordination. I pray that you will as i hope you pray I will. I don’t want to have you dislike me and hope you don’t. Please don’t think I am not orthodox because I feel bad for people that don’t get to realise their vocation. I have been rejected many times. My friend who is a priest was rejected 15!!! times. one of my favorite priests and he has been my biggest help in my discernment. What if he gave up. What if he listened to negativity or took it at face value on the first rejection? how many souls would be affected? we tend to think of ourselves me included, but what about the people we may serve!! it is about them more than us and most of all God.
I am new at this, I am sure once in seminary I will understand on a higher level and see it different. but I feel that we have a duty to see our call through to the end. We may agree to dissagree on some issues, with this topic. But again I agree that ordination is not a right. God bless scoob.

 

[catharina]

One further question, what gives you the right to judge these dioceses/religious communities and the criteria they set?

Yet you are the one who continues to do so.

 

[larsenl1]

I was severely bullied in high school, so I sometimes have an irrational fear of being harassed by strangers who don’t understand me. However, I’m kind of being misunderstood in this situation and I’m not flopping around like an epileptic so I’d say I’m good to go. But unless they test me or actually give me a chance, if I were to just state my diagnoses they’d probably shut down on me and give me das boot.

I have Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, and PTSD. See, your alarm bells probably just went off and HARD.

However, I have NO mood swings, NO hallucinations, and NO delusions due to me being on meds that work with NO side effects. I don’t retreat into a shell, have flashbacks, or spaz the hell out except on rare occasion. I have gained such a great understanding of my interior life, and such a level of watchfulness, that I can stop myself from getting emotional. My biggest issue is getting somewhat anxious and scared that people are judging me, but right now these are minor flaws that are actually dying a swift death with every day of faith, prayer, and communion that passes. Most of the time I am calm, cool, collected, and even sometimes contemplative.

Most people with my diagnoses do not make it this far in recovery, and the problem is I’m going to be lumped in with that norm.

I will pray for you. My daughter has PTSD, and Borderline Personality Disorder and/or Reactive Attachment Disorder (DSM IV will only allow RAD on minors, so what the heck do you call the illness when she turns 18). She is in therapy and is getting along pretty good considering all things. This is her last year of high school.

I understand your fears. I also understand how your family feels.

I agree, you need to have a spiritual director to help you discern your vocation. You have much to offer.

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

Yet you are the one who continues to do so.

I give up, you just won’t read what I said and you have never been in my shoes so lets agree to dissagree. God bless you and pray for me Scoob.

 

[Viola_Incognita]

RIghts or no rights the parishoners get the bad end of the stick. …]
…] how many souls would be affected? we tend to think of ourselves me included, but what about the people we may serve!! it is about them more than us and most of all God.

God Bless You! And thank you. You realize that it’s not about you.

Bro. David, Scoob –

You both have valid points of view, but they’re like comparing apples and oranges – two completely different vocational situations – a unique diocese versus and order. You’re talking at cross purposes.

PAX.

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

Originally Posted by WoundedIcon
I was severely bullied in high school, so I sometimes have an irrational fear of being harassed by strangers who don’t understand me. However, I’m kind of being misunderstood in this situation and I’m not flopping around like an epileptic so I’d say I’m good to go. But unless they test me or actually give me a chance, if I were to just state my diagnoses they’d probably shut down on me and give me das boot.

I have Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, and PTSD. See, your alarm bells probably just went off and HARD.

However, I have NO mood swings, NO hallucinations, and NO delusions due to me being on meds that work with NO side effects. I don’t retreat into a shell, have flashbacks, or spaz the hell out except on rare occasion. I have gained such a great understanding of my interior life, and such a level of watchfulness, that I can stop myself from getting emotional. My biggest issue is getting somewhat anxious and scared that people are judging me, but right now these are minor flaws that are actually dying a swift death with every day of faith, prayer, and communion that passes. Most of the time I am calm, cool, collected, and even sometimes contemplative.

Most people with my diagnoses do not make it this far in recovery, and the problem is I’m going to be lumped in with that norm. QOUTE>

Look at Brian Wilson he has Schizophrenia and look at his career. There are other examples. Need to take the physcological profile test that will prove whether or not you are called to priesthood mentally. If you are not ask God what he wants you to do. If you feel convicted being a priest then keep trying. Ask God to take the desire away from you and if it leaves great if not keep seeking. I don’t know if that would be a deal breaker having Schizophrenia but I would think it is a good chance. If you are on meds that work and you are normal don’t know. I will keep you in my prayers . Seek a healing priest and yes I strongly beleive in that. You are not out of the running yet,you are still alive!! God bless and let us know how it goes. Scoob.

 

[scoobydoo6v92]

However, I have NO mood swings, NO hallucinations, and NO delusions due to me being on meds that work with NO side effects. I don’t retreat into a shell, have flashbacks, or spaz the hell out except on rare occasion. I have gained such a great understanding of my interior life, and such a level of watchfulness, that I can stop myself from getting emotional. My biggest issue is getting somewhat anxious and scared that people are judging me, but right now these are minor flaws that are actually dying a swift death with every day of faith, prayer, and communion that passes. Most of the time I am calm, cool, collected, and even sometimes contemplative. QOUTE>

Maybe though a long shot but maybe Jesus is healing you?? It is real and it is possible. Keep on the meds and maybe one day you will be healed then you can go further in the process at a later date. Meanwhile maybe you can serve the Church in another capacity than priesthood at the moment. I am sure there are priests with mental issues just as there are priests with cancer diabetes type I and other stuff. At any rate keep the faith try to go to a healing Mass if you can and you never know you may be healed and or already being healed. Nothing I mean Nothing is impossible with God nothing!!! God Bless and I am praying for you for sure God bless Scoob.