Can a Priest omit the Creed during mass?

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I attended a mass last Sunday and after the homily, the Priest asked a couple who were celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary to stand up and he had them reconfirm (?) their vows. It took about a minute and it was very sweet. Afterwards, the Priest said, well we don’t need to confess our faith because what we just witnessed pretty much sums up our Catholic Faith.

And I’m thinking HUH? What just happened here?

So my question, is the confession of faith an optional part of the mass?
 
Are you talking about the Creed? The only time I’ve ever seen it omitted is when there is a Baptism, and everyone Professes their faith then… I thought it was standard at Sunday Mass.
 
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Spooky7272:
Are you talking about the Creed? The only time I’ve ever seen it omitted is when there is a Baptism, and everyone Professes their faith then… I thought it was standard at Sunday Mass.
Yes, the Creed - "We believe in one God… "

(sorry - still new & I forget the correct terms)

Anyhow, WE didn’t say anything at all… the couple said the standard “I will” after the Priest’s “Will you continue to love, honor, cherish… etc.” And then he presented them to us and said that their dedication to each other is a wonderful example of folks living out their Catholic Faith. He then said something to the effect of, “We don’t need to confess our Faith because by their living example, they’ve done it for us…” And the mass proceeded.

Is that acceptable?
 
Carol Marie,

I don’t know what the instructions are for Sunday masses, but I believe that during the week the Creed can be–and usually is–left out. But that doesn’t apply to what you wrote about.
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Gosh, I don’t know… I don’t think it’s optional… I could be wrong though, Anybody else know?
 
Creed should not be omitted during high Mass like sunday mass. But in Daily Mass Creed can be omitted. Im not sure but i advise to research this on General Instruction of Roman Missal (GIRM)
 
I believe it is a must for Sunday Mass. I’ll do some checking for a document.
 
According to the GIRM:

68. The Creed is to be sung or said by the priest together with the people on Sundays and Solemnities. It may be said also at particular celebrations of a more solemn character.

In other words, it must be included in the liturgy on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. It is optional for most daily Masses.
 
Detroit Sue:
I believe it is a must for Sunday Mass. I’ll do some checking for a document.
The Gloria and Credo are both normally omitted during low (ie weekday) masses. They must be included in high (ie Sunday and Solemnity) masses except for the penitential seasons when the Gloria is omitted.

GIRM

The is sung or said on Sundays outside Advent and Lent, on
solemnities and feasts, and in special, more solemn celebrations.
  1. Recitation of the profession of faith by the priest together with
    the people is obligatory on Sundays and solemnities. It maybe said
    also at special, more solemn celebrations.
 
carol marie:
Yes, the Creed - "We believe in one God… "
Actually the Creed is “I believe in one God…”

not “We believe”.

The “We” part is that everyone is saying "I
 
carol marie:
Yes, the Creed - "We believe in one God… "
Actually the Creed is “I believe in one God…”

not “We believe”.

The “We” part is that everyone is saying “I” at the same time.
 
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ByzCath:
Actually the Creed is “I believe in one God…”

not “We believe”.

The “We” part is that everyone is saying “I” at the same time.
Right now in the Latin Rite Churches, the creed says “WE”. It was an inclusive language translation done by the ICEL. But the new translation coming down the pike changes it back to “I”.

So the person saying “We believe” is correct as that has been the creed said in Mass since 1970.
 
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InnocentIII:
GIRM

The is sung or said on Sundays outside Advent and Lent, on
solemnities and feasts, and in special, more solemn celebrations.
  1. Recitation of the profession of faith by the priest together with
    the people is obligatory on Sundays and solemnities. It maybe said
    also at special, more solemn celebrations.
Thank you for that reference. I used to be in a parish where the Creed was omitted from Sunday mass quite often. And we never said the Penetential Rite because the pastor didn’t believe we could sin in our thoughts (I guess Jesus didn’t know what He was talking about :eek: ). Well, you can see why I got my family out of that parish.
 
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ByzCath:
Actually the Creed is “I believe in one God…”

not “We believe”.

The “We” part is that everyone is saying “I” at the same time.
The mistranslation of credo as We beleive by the ICEL (I use the term mistranslation loosely as I believe it was quite deliberate) has had some unfortunate effects.

The Creed was originally introduced into the mass in the lands of Charlemagne as a defence against Arianism. Because Arians did not beleive in the Trinity the requirment to recite the creed as a personal statement of faith defined everyone present at the mass as being orthodox. It was thus always intended as a personal statement not a corporate statement.

The change to We believe hsa however created a situation where one can recite the profession of faith as a corporate belief while reserving ones personal belief. I hope (and believe) that the Vox Clara translation will restore the correct translation.

Personally I always make the profession as a personal statement
 
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