P
Pious_Mat
Guest
I know that fiddleback chasubles are permitted at the New Mass, but could a priest, just for the sake of decorum, wear a maniple? Just curious.
Do you have a reference for this? I’m curious which document made the change.vatican 2 abolished the used of the maniple; therefore, in the NOM a priest cannot use it.
pax
Tres Abhinc Annos (1967) made the maniple optionalDo you have a reference for this? I’m curious which document made the change.
Thanks!
Since it was omitted does that mean it was not to be used…or only that it remains optional per Tres Adhinc Annos?Tres Abhinc Annos (1967) made the maniple optional
And when the vesting prayers came out for the new missal, the maniple was omitted, as was any reference to it in the pertinent sections of the GIRM.
How interesting.Here’s an interesting little tidbit from St. Alphonsus de Liquori. The doctor of the Church says that the maniple, that little piece of cloth that priests place over their left arm during Mass “was introduced for the purpose of wiping away the tears of devotion that flowed from the eyes of the priest; for in former times priests wept continuously during the celebration of the Mass.”
From the Duties and Dignity of the priest, By St. Alphonsus de Liquori p 217
How things have changed…
I had always heard it was to wipe away the sweat.Here’s an interesting little tidbit from St. Alphonsus de Liquori. The doctor of the Church says that the maniple, that little piece of cloth that priests place over their left arm during Mass “was introduced for the purpose of wiping away the tears of devotion that flowed from the eyes of the priest; for in former times priests wept continuously during the celebration of the Mass.”
From the Duties and Dignity of the priest, By St. Alphonsus de Liquori p 217
How things have changed…
I’ve seen it done. However, the manipule is really an artifact–it used the be the hanky the priest used to wipe is brow in the days before ait conditioning. There is no real theological or practical reason to use one.I know that fiddleback chasubles are permitted at the New Mass, but could a priest, just for the sake of decorum, wear a maniple? Just curious.
Just bring your hanky or a box of tissues to Mass.How interesting.
This being the case, there might be some call for the restoration of the maniple - for the laity. I have attended more than one Mass in years past where I had to fight back continuous weeping on my part…
I certainly could have used a maniple at one such Mass in high school where a Lutheran pastor was vested and invited to concelebrate. Oh how I could have used a maniple on that day…
Seems that the maniple has the same status as the headcoverings for women in the NO. Not banned, not mentioned and so still allowed.Tres Abhinc Annos (1967) made the maniple optional
And when the vesting prayers came out for the new missal, the maniple was omitted, as was any reference to it in the pertinent sections of the GIRM.
At some masses these flimsey items do not do the full job. I tend to believe something closer to a formal napkin (about the weight & texture of the maniple) is needed.Sr Sally
Just bring your hanky or a box of tissues to Mass.
Now this makes perfect sense, thank you for that explanation.I’ve seen it done. However, the manipule is really an artifact–it used the be the hanky the priest used to wipe is brow in the days before ait conditioning. There is no real theological or practical reason to use one.
My husband always has a handkerchief on handSeems that the maniple has the same status as the headcoverings for women in the NO. Not banned, not mentioned and so still allowed.
At some masses these flimsey items do not do the full job. I tend to believe something closer to a formal napkin (about the weight & texture of the maniple) is needed.![]()
Nothing wrong with traditional artifacts. Everything becomes a tradition after a time. Or an antique for that matter even people.My husband always has a handkerchief on hand![]()
So you are saying that St Alphonsus de Liquori, Doctor of the Church is wrong?I’ve seen it done. However, the manipule is really an artifact–it used the be the hanky the priest used to wipe is brow in the days before ait conditioning. There is no real theological or practical reason to use one.