Can a Roman Catholic attend a Byzantine Mass when there are Roman Rite options available?

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dbacks5439 said:
In fact, just before summer started, they came out with a new Missal with several really minor changes. A word here and there and several pitch changes. To me, the DL is a combo of the NO and the Tridentine, at least the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is.
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Coming in the other direction, from Byzantine to Latin NO, I saw the similarity in the sequence of Readings, Gospel, Homily, Creed, Consecration, Lord’s Prayer, Eucharist, Dismissal. My Latin Rite husband said the Divine Liturgy reminded him of the TLM.

Our marriage took place at my home parish, which is Ukrainian Catholic. His godmother took us aside afterward and told us how happy she was we had the “traditional” nuptial Mass!
 
dbacks5439 said:
Yes, it is Ruthenian Catholic. It is part of the Byzantine rite that celebrates principally the DL of St. John Chrysostom. In fact, the priest is Fr. Thomas Loya. Not sure if you heard of him, but he is an expert on Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body.
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What a wonderful church to be able to go to!

I know of two families who stopped in one day to check out the Byzantine Catholic Church down the street knowing nothing about it and never left! If you don’t have a problem with going just to experience, you won’t have a problem while you are there. 80% of the responses are Lord, have mercy. 🙂 Throw in a lot of standing and making the sign of the cross and you’ll be fine!

If you are the type who will walk in and notice that there are no stations of the Cross, who will insist on kneeling to receive, and who will be scandalized to hear a homily on the most important aspect of Christ’s life being his incarnation, then you probably want to read up on it first.
 
Woodstock said:
What a wonderful church to be able to go to!

I know of two families who stopped in one day to check out the Byzantine Catholic Church down the street knowing nothing about it and never left! If you don’t have a problem with going just to experience, you won’t have a problem while you are there. 80% of the responses are Lord, have mercy. 🙂 Throw in a lot of standing and making the sign of the cross and you’ll be fine!

If you are the type who will walk in and notice that there are no stations of the Cross, who will insist on kneeling to receive, and who will be scandalized to hear a homily on the most important aspect of Christ’s life being his incarnation, then you probably want to read up on it first.
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Well, when I first went, I kinda just went through the motions. When people stood, I stood and such. But when they got the new Missal which was very easy to follow along, I got into it fairly quickly. Yes it is a very beautiful church and sadly I’ve grown accustomed to the incense. Not that it’s bad, I just like having the smell hit me in the face. Now I enter and it doesn’t hit me because I’m used to it.
 
dbacks5439 said:
I think you mentioned that earlier this year. I know another Eastern Orthodox on the forums that goes every now and then. Did you go to Annunciation before you became Orthodox or when you were Orthodox?
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I am not Orthodox yet, but I probably will be soon. I went there from summer of 2005 to summer of 2006, off and on (when I wasn’t at school). I still think the temple is more impressive than the Orthodox churches I’ve been to.
 
Canon Law says you can go just because you want to.

Canon law also allows you to become a parishioner without changing rites.

Canon law still holds you to the obligations of your home Sui Iuris church, but you can fullfill them at any Catholic parish of any Sui Iuris Church and which ever rite that church observes, if you have good reason to. (Being enrolled in the parish usually is enough for most bishops.)

As to confession: the mode differs by right. Many romans would be uncomfortable confessing in the Nave before the Iconostas…

There is only one sacrement FORBIDDEN by canon law to be taken outside one’s home rite: Ordination.

All the others may, including reconciliation/confession. Baptism, Chrismation, and First Communion are by preference done in one’s home rite if available. Marriage may be done outside one’s home rite, but the bishops involved (the one of the parish it is being done in, and the correct bishop for the home rite of the person, both are supposed to approve it before it happens).
 
wynd said:
I am not Orthodox yet, but I probably will be soon. I went there from summer of 2005 to summer of 2006, off and on (when I wasn’t at school). I still think the temple is more impressive than the Orthodox churches I’ve been to.
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Well, I just started to go this year, so you didn’t see me. What school do you go to? Also, if you want to talk about your spiritual journey, feel free to PM me.
 
mikellie said:
Why the restriction on reconciliation? Can you tell us more about your view there?

I know that you can receive that sacrament in any Catholic Church, so why your advice?
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The Latin Rite requires that you participate in sacramental confession prior to Mass. However, in the Byzantine they hear confessions after Mass.
 
dbacks5439 said:
Yes it is a very beautiful church and sadly I’ve grown accustomed to the incense. Not that it’s bad, I just like having the smell hit me in the face. Now I enter and it doesn’t hit me because I’m used to it.
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All that means is that you need to donate a new flavor of incense! I like to get mine from here. Watch who takes care of the incense at Liturgy (it depends which orders are present at that parish) then ask him if there are any suggested guidelines for donating a new scent.
 
guanophore said:
The Latin Rite requires that you participate in sacramental confession prior to Mass. However, in the Byzantine they hear confessions after Mass.
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I think you misunderstood something somewhere.

Both the Latin and Byzantine Churches require the faithful to be in a state of grace before receiving. Parishes in both schedule confessions at times convenient to the parishioners. If the parish you attended offered confession after Divine Liturgy, it was probably because the parishioners were spread out geographically and typically only came on Sundays, so the priest offered confessions then. He undoubtedly also offered confessions by appointment throughout the week.

It is traditional in the east to offer confessions during Vespers on Saturday evening, but it sadly isn’t the most prevalent practice at this time.
 
lizaanne said:
There is a Byzantine Church about three blocks from where DH works and we have often considered going to Mass there. But he brought up a question that neither of us knew the answer to the other day - can a Roman Rite Catholic just choose to attend a Byzantine Mass when there are Roman Rite options available for Mass? Or would attending any other Rite for that matter only be used when no Roman Rite option were available?

I’ve never even thought to post in the old Eastern forum so at the very least the change got me to make a post here! 🙂

I hope this new forum works out for everyone.

~Liza
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Any Catholic can attend the Divine Liturgy of any of the Rites of the Catholic Church at any time.
 
St. Nicholas in Anchorage has confessions during Divine Praises before sunday DL.
 
Aramis said:
Canon Law says you can go just because you want to.

Canon law also allows you to become a parishioner without changing rites.

Canon law still holds you to the obligations of your home Sui Iuris church, but you can fullfill them at any Catholic parish of any Sui Iuris Church and which ever rite that church observes, if you have good reason to. (Being enrolled in the parish usually is enough for most bishops.)

As to confession: the mode differs by right. Many romans would be uncomfortable confessing in the Nave before the Iconostas…

There is only one sacrement FORBIDDEN by canon law to be taken outside one’s home rite: Ordination.

All the others may, including reconciliation/confession. Baptism, Chrismation, and First Communion are by preference done in one’s home rite if available. Marriage may be done outside one’s home rite, but the bishops involved (the one of the parish it is being done in, and the correct bishop for the home rite of the person, both are supposed to approve it before it happens).
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Thats really awesome. I will be visiting a Byz Cath communion soon and look forward to the experience.

Peace.
 
lizaanne said:
There is a Byzantine Church about three blocks from where DH works and we have often considered going to Mass there. But he brought up a question that neither of us knew the answer to the other day - can a Roman Rite Catholic just choose to attend a Byzantine Mass when there are Roman Rite options available for Mass? Or would attending any other Rite for that matter only be used when no Roman Rite option were available?

I’ve never even thought to post in the old Eastern forum so at the very least the change got me to make a post here! 🙂

I hope this new forum works out for everyone.

~Liza
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You are all human, Let your CORE threads bring you together dont focus on your differences that is petty and its why the church is in the state it is today.

So Go
 
djrakowski said:
Liza, my wife and I are members of SS C&M in Sterling Heights, and I’ve attended Divine Liturgy at Our Lady of Redemption Melkite parish in Warren.
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Is OLR on Ryan? I think I’ve passed it before but can’t recall where. :confused:

Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful information! I drove by the Byzantine Church again this morning and did not see a schedule visible outside, and they do not appear to have a web presence. So I guess I need to pay more attention next time and get the full name of the Church so I can give them a call.

~Liza
 
lizaanne said:
Is OLR on Ryan? I think I’ve passed it before but can’t recall where. :confused:
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It’s on the west side of Lorraine, north of 12 Mile and east of Van ****.

(why did it change the word I typed into asterisks? Anyone who lives in this area probably knows which road I’m talking about, but still…)
 
djrakowski said:
It’s on the west side of Lorraine, north of 12 Mile and east of Van ****.

(why did it change the word I typed into asterisks? Anyone who lives in this area probably knows which road I’m talking about, but still…)
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Yep - I know what road it is - let me try spelling VanDyke without the space and see if that works. 😉

Thanks!

~Liza
 
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