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Several months ago I asked the question that is in the subject line and I am grateful for the responses I have received. Some of the answers have given me hope.

Where my son’s soul ended up is still a mystery and could remain a mystery until I reach Heaven.

On this Easter Sunday, I began reading the book “Hungry Souls.”

I continue to pray and ask you to pray for him. His name is Alex.

That is all for now.

Blessings on this Easter Sunday.
 
Remember, addicts have a sickness. Same as cancer. Same as heart disease. Same as any kind of ailment. I know the Catholic church teaches of a merciful God. I don’t think that merciful God condemns the souls of those who were sick while in this world, as a result of their illness.

I wish peace for you, friend. I don’t think you need to worry about the fate of Alex’s soul.
 
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Yes, for instance there is a Chinese saint addicted to Opium who couldn’t give it up who was martyred.
 
Unless you elect to smoke, drink like a fish, or do other high risk activities, you don’t generally elect to get cancer.

I wish people would stop equating the personal choice of taking drugs with cancer and other things. I would seriously love for somebody to explain say how retinoblastoma (cancer of the eye people are born with) equates to somebody electing to shoot up drugs.
 
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Unless you elect to smoke, drink like a fish, or do other high risk activities, you don’t generally elect to get cancer.

I wish people would stop equating the personal choice of taking drugs with cancer and other things. I would seriously love for somebody to explain say how retinoblastoma (cancer of the eye people are born with) equates to somebody electing to shoot up drugs.
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All I can suggest is you spend quality time around some addicts. Really get to know them. Serve them, in a human way, by taking care of them when they can’t take care of themselves. Talk to them about their addiction, and listen really hard. Then you will probably understand why others can easily equate addiction with diseases of all types.
 
Yes, I will remember you and your dear Alex in my prayers.
Yes, I know the anguish of a loved one dying and we didn’t see outward evidence of conversion.
But outward evidence is not the whole story.
God is not bound by time, pray for your loved ones anyway, keep praying and release them up to His mercy.

Peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️
 
Unkind is putting cancers you are born with in the same category of disease as drug use. Nobody chooses to be born with tumor suppressor gene problems. Many drug users come from the fact that they chose to use drugs.

I’d consider drug overdoses to be a type of suicide, with drug use the same thing, just on the installment plan. If I were to inject Bob with a dose of heroin and he died, I could get charged with a variety of different “homicide” (i.e. person killing person) charges. Why shouldn’t drug overdoses be treated any differently?
 
If you can’t say anything kind in this thread, I would suggest you don’t comment at all.

How about focusing on your own hoof in mouth disease and what you can do about it instead of trying to convince people that addiction isn’t a disease.
 
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Qwerty Girl’s answer is spot on! Addiction is a disease. Of that, I have no doubt. Not only did I live with the nightmare for 10 years, I prayed and I took a series of classes to learn about addiction. St. Monica and the Blessed Virgin Mary have been my role models. In my research, I learned that Monica prayed for 17 years before her son, the Great St. Augustine, saw the light. I truly believed that my prayers would someday be answered: that my son’s disease would go into remission (addiction isn’t “curable”), that we would live a happy life and that I would die with him at my side.
 
Right on Scarlett: the outward evidence of conversion that I did not see is what bothered me the most. Thank you for your kind reply.
 
Your comments clearly indicate that you have absolutely no idea what addiction is all about and I don’t expect you to understand the kind of hell my son and I lived in. You are not alone, my friend. Many people are clueless to this scourge and its effects on individuals and thier families.
 
I am painfully aware of what drug use does to families. One of the aspects of my job is dealing with parents who expose children to the stuff. That is why I have no patience or respect for anyone who refuses to put down the drugs. A toddler has no choice in the matter. A fully grown adult has a choice. Every time anyone is faced with a decision, they have to make a choice… do they do A, B, or maybe C. The choices may be painful, but they do exist.

I’ve been in hospital ER rooms with young children/babies who have been exposed to drugs due to their parents’ choices. It is not pretty. Do not assume that I don’t know what drugs do to families; I am well aware.
 
So, you are just thoughtless then. You are speaking to a mother that has lost a son and you show no sympathy, only contempt. That is very uncharitable of you.
 
Yes, he made a choice. A bad choice. But then comes addiction , which, since you say you are around it in an emergency room, is very difficult to end. Some people do it and some can’t, even if they desire to. You are a very unfeeling person if you have no sympathy for a parent of such a “child.” But I want to know why you think your sins are more worthy of God’s forgiveness than their’s.
 
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@techgal07, my heart breaks for the sadness your son’s passing caused. Please ignore the comments made by @seeksadvice. Apparently he doesn’t seek advice when it matters, because he is woefully ignorant on the matter of addiction, but even moreso on what is appropriate to say to a grieving mother who lost a child to this disease. I am so sorry.
 
Actually, as I have heard from parents a few times in situations like this, she no longer has to worry about what he is going to do. I imagine some folks find it strange, but I have encountered people who find it a relief.

Qwerty - Physical dependence is done by at least 6 months, probably less. After a few years in the penitentiary, the physical dependence should be long gone. You can spend thousands and thousands of dollars on trying to treat them, but if they ignore it, you might as well take the money, douse it with gas, and light it on fire. Ultimately, it is their choice, which is why treatment works, on those rare occassions when it does. If it were not a choice, then treatment would never work, would it?
 
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