Can Aliens Be Baptized? A Short Article

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—This may seem only an unimportant question now. But later…?
Unfortunately, the author is entirely wrong.

He seems to forget the entire dogma of the Incarnation.

Christ became Human. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

God became man. He did not become a dog, or a dolphin, or a martian.

Only human nature was assumed. Only human nature can be saved. Only human beings can be baptised.

There is nothing new here. The question of whether or not any creature other than a human being could be baptised has been long since settled and is indisputable.

Only a human being can be baptised. Period.
 
http://time.com/99616/for-pope-francis-its-about-more-than-martians/

Essentially in the eyes of the Pope it would appear if the creature were to have a soul and a wish to be baptized his answer would be yes.
He did not say that he would actually baptize a Martian. That’s a media distortion of his words.

He was simply attempting to illustrate to modern day people how the ancient Jewish people saw non-Jews as being foreigners and strange and unlike themselves. He was saying “to the Jews, the gentiles were like Martians” He was not suggesting baptizing Martians.

He also said that Martians are green and have big noses and big ears. So are we then to conclude that he would not baptize the blue Martians or the purple ones? He was trying to make a point about welcoming strangers. He was not making any theological points about baptizing non-humans.
 
So would that mean an Alien or Martian (if they were to exist) who had a soul and was willing would be turned away on theological grounds (under current teaching)? Or would this be the kind of thing or issue that would require a Papal/magisterium judgement call? I am curious only because this would prove to be an interesting point and furthermore how would we judge which type of sould they had (animal or human) in terms of eternal life.
 
Here at CAF, there have been other recent threads on the theological implications of extraterrestrial intelligent life. My own view is based on the idea that God created everything that exists, and did so intentionally. If other creatures exist with the capacity to know, love, and serve God, then He’s got it covered – if not by Christianity then some other way. It’s not up to us to save them.
 
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So would that mean an Alien or Martian (if they were to exist) who had a soul and was willing would be turned away on theological grounds (under current teaching)? Or would this be the kind of thing or issue that would require a Papal/magisterium judgement call? I am curious only because this would prove to be an interesting point and furthermore how would we judge which type of sould they had (animal or human) in terms of eternal life.
What it means is that this question has already been asked-and-answered by the Church. It might not seem that way to some, but that’s the plain truth of it.

Long ago, in the early centuries of the Church, it became a settled issue that we human beings are redeemed very specifically because God became man. That’s why we say it in the Creeds. An entire discipline of theology exists on this subject matter, we call it Incarnational Theology, a subtopic of Christology.

If we were to say that any other species has been or could be redeemed by the Incarnation of Jesus Christ, the Word-Become-Flesh, the God-Become-Man, then we would be denying everything about our Christian faith (yes, everything). We would have to go all the way back to the 4th century Arian controversy and start everything all over again, because everything we think we know about the Incarnation would be wrong. Indeed, we would have to back to the Annunciation itself and re-think its meaning.

Did Mary say “let it be done unto me” to allow herself to become the mother of an Incarnate God-Man-Martian? This is not some silly caricature. It is a very serious question which would have to be asked if we were to want to change our Christian faith to allow for the possibility of any other species (terrestrial or alien) of being redeemed.

As I said earlier, this is not a new question. This question has been considered settled and beyond dispute (dogma) since the earliest centuries. Only that which was assumed at the Incarnation can be saved by the Incarnation. In the person of Jesus Christ, God became man. He did not become God-man-martian, or any other species, known, unknown, or hypothetical.

There is a reason why we spend so many words in the Creeds speaking about the Incarnation. There is a reason why we say in the Creed
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For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
To say, or even speculate that aliens might be saved by the Incarnation of Christ would be a betrayal of those words in the Creeds and every other time those or similar words or concepts appear in our Christian faith. And indeed, this is the very concept around which all of salvation history revolves. God became man.

This is not a new question by any means. It is one that the Church has considered quite thoroughly. God became man.

Only that human nature which was assumed at the Incarnation can be redeemed by the Incarnation.
 
Plus, if “it is impossible that with the blood of oxen and goats sin should be taken away” (Hebrews 10:4), how could the blood of Jesus take away the sins of Martians?
 
Can Aliens Be Baptized?
see Can Aliens be Baptized? -- Evangelical Catholic Apologetics, Philosophy, Spirituality
—This may seem only an unimportant question now. But later…?
I know that most people who have replied, said, “no”. But I would say, “yes.”

Here are my reasons:
  1. Although many people here have assumed that aliens are not humans, how do they know?
    a. Didn’t Enoch get taken away? So did Elijah?
    b. If they weren’t taken to heaven, where were they taken?
    c. And if they were taken, were they the only ones? Or just the only ones mentioned in Scripture?
  2. If aliens are intelligent and it appears they are, since by all accounts, their tech is superior to ours.
    a. Then, isn’t intelligence a sign of the existence of a soul?
    b. At the very least, it is the sign of the existence of a spirit.
  3. If aliens have free will and it appears that they do, since by all accounts they come in and out of our planet at will.
a. Then isn’t free will a sign of the existence of a soul?
  1. Now someone has objected that aliens are some sort of animal. And that we don’t baptize animals. But I don’t see animals flying in ships or doing experiments on other creatures. So, I know that animals don’t have a spiritual soul, as we do.
But since aliens appear to be intelligent, they might. Who’s to say they don’t? On what basis?
  1. Did God not create the entire universe? If He did, as I believe He did and as the Catholic Church Teaches, then did Christ die for the salvation of the universe? Or not?

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Romans 8:22 We know that all creation is groaning in labor pains even until now; 23 and not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, we also groan within ourselves as we wait for adoption, the redemption of our bodies.
  1. So, yes, if an alien comes to this world and submits to the Teachings of Jesus Christ and the authority of the Catholic Church, and keeps the Commandments and wants to be baptized and the Pope says, “Yes! I’ll baptize you.” Who are any of us to say, “No!”
Acts 11:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore, I tell you that nobody speaking by the spirit of God says, “Jesus be accursed.” And no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the holy Spirit.
 
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I won’t go through every single point.

You are missing the entire point of the discussion.

In the Person of Jesus Christ, God, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, became man, and in doing so became our Salvation.

Since God did become a human being, only human beings are redeemed by Christ. Period. End.

You need to learn a Christian dogma called “the Incarnation.”

This is not in any way a new question. It has been settled dogma since at least the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
 
I won’t go through every single point.

You are missing the entire point of the discussion.

In the Person of Jesus Christ, God, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, became man, and in doing so became our Salvation.

Since God did become a human being, only human beings are redeemed by Christ. Period. End.

You need to learn a Christian dogma called “the Incarnation.”

This is not in any way a new question. It has been settled dogma since at least the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD.
Are you sure that aliens aren’t human beings?
 
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Are you sure that aliens aren’t human beings?
Quite sure.
On what basis? Have you met some and studied their biology? Or is this merely your assumption because you couldn’t imagine this to be true?
What I am not sure about is whether you are being serious here.
As serious as anyone who is speculating about what might or might not be.

Are you serious?
 
I got this crazy idea. It might make a decent science fiction short story.

What if Jesus came in the flesh to every race in the universe, having the appearance (accidents?) of a bunch of separate incarnations in different biological species, places, and times, but in essence a single act in the universal salvation plan?

Nah… Just a crazy idea…
 
All alien stories smell fishy to me. Not the accuracy of the story from the person’s view, but the fact that aliens would be coming to earth at all…saying things like they are going to save the human race and such…it reeks of demonic.
 
We will never know if/until. I think the if will be negated, but only God knows. After all, Columbus and his crew weren’t sure. And look what happened. Would they do that to us?
 
What I’m wondering is why this is even a question. As far as we know, non-angelic extraterrestrial beings do not exist. The only reason we think about the concept is because they are prominent in science fiction.

In reality, Scripture strongly suggests that only man has both body and soul. Eve is the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20). Also: “For by a man came death, and by a man the resurrection of the dead. And as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:21-22.) As I like to say, the Hebrew and Greek words translated “all” mean “all.” Plus, the Church declared the notion of multiple Adams and Eves a heresy.
 
but the fact that aliens would be coming to earth at all…saying things like they are going to save the human race and such
Yeah, like those aliens in the Twilight Zone episode that said they wanted only to serve man. Turns out it was the same way as we serve chicken. 🍗

On the other hand, maybe they would come because they need our help. In the film Arrival the aliens visited only briefly and said that they knew they would need our help a few thousand years in the future. 📅
 
I’ve heard a story of a person who was abducted and said the aliens told them that the earth was going to basically go through the apocalypse (earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, etc)…and that the aliens would come save them during that time. It seriously reminds me of the second coming. Many New Age religions incorporate these sort of heretic beliefs and ideas into their “religion.”

Plus, after reading some of Blessed Anne Emmerich’s revelations, it just wouldn’t make sense for aliens to exist. In her biblical revelations, she says that it was revealed to her that man was only made to replace the fallen angels. Why would God make aliens to? That just would be illogical. The very fact that Jesus is a man says it all.
 
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