That is not the question I asked you. The question is: Why does Allah in your Qur’an refer to himself as “WE?” Who else was a Creator like Allah? You do not need to interpret our Bible for us especially when it is your belief that Allah doesn’t even have any sons. Since Muslims believe that Allah has no sons, then surely it also stands to reason that Muslims would also believe that he has no daughters.That is referring to creating for the angels daughters as it is claimed that God has a literal a Son in Jesus. So it’s not saying what you want it to say.
If Jesus was not related at all to Mary then he was not made from the seed of David according to the flesh, even in your interpretation. This is a big reason why Jews reject Jesus, because the pop Christian tradition makes void the Word of God. Hardly any Jew will be convinced that Jesus is not of the blood of David, because that is the promise to David which creates a thing called Messiah in the first place.NO
Incarnation, not creation.
It’s my Bible too, not just “your” Bible. God wasn’t referring to Himself as WE you just thought He was. He was referring to existing angels having daughters, in the same way God is said to have a literal son.That is not the question I asked you. The question is: Why does Allah in your Qur’an refer to himself as “WE?” Who else was a Creator like Allah? You do not need to interpret our Bible for us especially when it is your belief that Allah doesn’t even have any sons. Since Muslims believe that Allah has no sons, then surely it also stands to reason that Muslims would also believe that he has no daughters.
FaithofAbraham, why do you even quote from our Bible? Don’t you know your own holy book? Why do take our Bible and tell us about the Sons of God, when this is what your Qur’an tells you?The Sons of God were the faithful angels who worshiped God. As are the faithful human Sons of God too.
Romans 8:14-15 For as **many **as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Quran says that God did not have sex with Mary like a Zeus to produce a demigod. The Quran isn’t objecting to the nature described in Romans 8.
It is very clear in the Qur’an that Allah referred to himself as “WE” and it is very obvious that Allah was not referring to the angels. You just cannot explain. There is nothing in your religion that explains it. So, what do you do? You turn to the Christian Bible to find an explaination? Was it not you who claim that Christians are polytheists and that God is not a Father?It’s my Bible too, not just “your” Bible. God wasn’t referring to Himself as WE you just thought He was. He was referring to existing angels having daughters, in the same way God is said to have a literal son.
Muslims have been brainwashed to think that they can’t be children of God too because that somehow means you saying you are a deity, because Christians have made it seem that God somehow had some sex with Mary and produced the demigod Jesus for Him to be as a son.FaithofAbraham, why do you even quote from our Bible? Don’t you know your own holy book? Why do take our Bible and tell us about the Sons of God, when this is what your Qur’an tells you?
Sura 6:101 Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth! How could He have a son when He has no consort, and He (Himself) created everything, and He is the Knower of all things.
Catholics believe that God is our Father, and we are His children. Muslims believe that God is not a Father and he has no sons or daughters; yet, you quote our Bible referring to sons of God? Which one do you believe? If you believe that the angels are the sons of God, then you must also believe he is a Father, which actually goes against your Qur’an, which stated that Allah doesn’t have any sons.
God isn’t referring to only Himself at all, He’s referring to Himself and the angels. The angels are already there when He talks about making daughters for them.It is very clear in the Qur’an that Allah referred to himself as “WE” and it is very obvious that Allah was not referring to the angels. You just cannot explain. There is nothing in your religion that explains it. So, what do you do? You turn to the Christian Bible to find an explaination? Was it not you who claim that Christians are polytheists and that God is not a Father?
[37.150] Or did We create the angels females while they were witnesses?God isn’t referring to only Himself at all, He’s referring to Himself and the angels. The angels are already there when He talks about making daughters for them.
No it’s asking whether the angels had daughters created for them, as God was supposed to have Jesus as a son for Him. You have the context wrong.[37.150] Or did We create the angels females while they were witnesses?
According to the Qur’anic verse, it is not saying that Allah created daughters for the angels. It is asking whether the angels were created females. And as I said, Allah refers to himself as “We.” Do you believe that there is only one Creator, or do you believe that there are many Creators?
FaithofAbraham, the Qur’an does say that Allah has no children; therefore, the Muslims do not call themselves “children of God” because the Qur’an speficially says that Allah has no children. To go against this is to go against the Qur’anMuslims have been brainwashed to think that they can’t be children of God too because that somehow means you saying you are a deity, because Christians have made it seem that God somehow had some sex with Mary and produced the demigod Jesus for Him to be as a son.
The Quran is against the idea that someone can be a child of God literally sired of God because those are the pagan beliefs, where Greek and Roman gods like Zeus came down to mate with women and produce demigods like Apollo. The Quran is against that. Not against being a child of God as a faithful servant of God.FaithofAbraham, the Qur’an does say that Allah has no children; therefore, the Muslims do not call themselves “children of God” because the Qur’an speficially says that Allah has no children. To go against this is to go against the Qur’an
All over the Qur’an, it says that Allah doesn’t have any sons nor does he call anyone his children, but his servants; therefore, the Muslims were not brainwashed. They were following their holy book. The Qur’an also says that Allah does not have a helper (See Sura 17:111). So, again if Allah does not have a helper as it says in the Qur’an, who was Allah referring to when he says “WE” created the heavens and the earth?
FaithofAbraham, the angels in Heaven are Allah’s servants, and even they are not called 'sons of God" in the Qur’an. The Qur’an calls no one including angels “a child of God” to show that Allah is not a Father, but a Master of all things. It is only in the Bible that you see “sons of God.” And the Bible also calls God “Father.” However, this still does not explain who Allah was referring to when he said “WE” created the Heavens and the earth. In the Qur’an, Allah says he is only one god, but he refers himself in the plural tense, calling himself WE instead of I, making himself into many instead of only one? And you claim that Christians are polytheists, when it’s obvious that the god you worship claims to be many instead of only one? And you can’t explain it?The Quran is against the idea that someone can be a child of God literally sired of God because those are the pagan beliefs, where Greek and Roman gods like Zeus came down to mate with women and produce demigods like Apollo. The Quran is against that. Not against being a child of God as a faithful servant of God.
You are the one saying God isn’t referring to Himself and the angels with Him, the Quran never says God is only referring to Himself.FaithofAbraham, the angels in Heaven are Allah’s servants, and even they are not called 'sons of God" in the Qur’an. The Qur’an calls no one including angels “a child of God” to show that Allah is not a Father, but a Master of all things. It is only in the Bible that you see “sons of God.” And the Bible also calls God “Father.” However, this still does not explain who Allah was referring to when he said “WE” created the Heavens and the earth. In the Qur’an, Allah says he is only one god, but he refers himself in the plural tense, calling himself WE instead of I, making himself into many instead of only one? And you claim that Christians are polytheists, when it’s obvious that the god you worship claims to be many instead of only one? And you can’t explain it?
FaithofAbraham, Muslims believe that there is only one Creator. Angels are not creators. They are creations (See Sura 15:27). The Qur’an quotes Allah as saying “WE” created the angels.You are the one saying God isn’t referring to Himself and the angels with Him, the Quran never says God is only referring to Himself.
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FaithoAbraham, the Qur’an also says that the Torah and the Gospels are NOT the truth because the Jews and the Christians changed the Scriptures. The Qur’an says that Jews and Christians should follow the Qur’an instead.People like me can read the Quran and the Bible, since Quran 3:3 says the Bible is truth too, and derive from this that being a child of God in that sense is ok,.
It says none of that. Jews and Christians changed Scripture with their traditions, not the actual words of it.FaithoAbraham, the Qur’an also says that the Torah and the Gospels are NOT the truth because the Jews and the Christians changed the Scriptures. The Qur’an says that Jews and Christians should follow the Qur’an instead.
No jinn are cherubim like Satan, angels only serve God, like Michael and Gabriel.FaithofAbraham, Muslims believe that there is only one Creator. Angels are not creators. They are creations (See Sura 15:27). The Qur’an quotes Allah as saying “WE” created the angels.
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Sura 15.27 And the jinn We created before, of intensely hot fire.
The jin are the angels. So, who else was Allah referring to when the angels were created? Who is “WE in this verse?” As I said, the word “WE” is not referring to Allah and the angels because the angels were created by Allah who refers to himself as “We.” In Islam, who else besides Allah created the angels, mankind, and the heavens and the earth and everything in it? Who else besides Allah is a Creator, that the word “We” is used instead of “I?”
If Jesus was not related at all to Mary
Jesus is related to Mary. Jesus incarnated in her womb, shared her blood if that’s what interests you so He is David’s “seed” .
Muslims have been brainwashed to think that they can’t be children of God too because that somehow means you saying you are a deity, because Christians have made it seem that God somehow had some sex with Mary and produced the demigod Jesus for Him to be as a son.
it is Allah who said he has no sons, and Muslims repeat. If muslims got it wrong because of “Christians”, who did Allah get it wrong from?
It’s the Christians incarnation/fully man fully God/etc. stuff that has confused everything so badly for everyone, especially the Jews who just throw Jesus away because it’s all too confusing and contradictory to prophecies.
The Quran is against the idea that someone can be a child of God literally sired of God because those are the pagan beliefs, where Greek and Roman gods like Zeus came down to mate with women and produce demigods like Apollo. The Quran is against that. Not against being a child of God as a faithful servant of God.
irrelevant. Whose help did Allah take in creation if he does not need a helper?
The Quran also says that God does not have a joint partnership.