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adawgj
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I’m wondering because both the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches have the real Eucharist. So is it possible for two priests one Catholic and one Eastern Orthodox to celebrate Mass/Liturgy together?
Can an Eastern Orthodox priest and a Catholic priest celebrate Mass together?
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Seraphim73
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Negative.
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cmodrmac
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of course they can- the real question is what would happen to them when the Powers to be found out-
the Eastern Orthodox have 0 desire to unify with the Latin catholics-in that such a concelebration would by design give legitimacy to the Roman Church I am sure that the Orthodox Priest would be sent on a long tour of the less desirable Greek Isles
Read the New York Times today and in the marriage secton there were 2 couples who had both A Roman catholic Priest and an Episcopal Priest participating in the ceremony ( surely not the Eucharist however)-such a simple action as this is surely not allowed by the Orthodox
Of course they are still seething over the sack of Constantinople by the Crusaders
the Eastern Orthodox have 0 desire to unify with the Latin catholics-in that such a concelebration would by design give legitimacy to the Roman Church I am sure that the Orthodox Priest would be sent on a long tour of the less desirable Greek Isles
Read the New York Times today and in the marriage secton there were 2 couples who had both A Roman catholic Priest and an Episcopal Priest participating in the ceremony ( surely not the Eucharist however)-such a simple action as this is surely not allowed by the Orthodox
Of course they are still seething over the sack of Constantinople by the Crusaders
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Peter_J
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I don’t want to speak on behalf of the Orthodox, but I’m quite sure that if an Orthodox priest concelebrated with a non-Orthodox, he would no longer be an Orthodox priest.
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phil19034
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Even if we were all one big happy Church, I don’t think con-celebration would be possible.
- the Catholic Priest would have to be bi-Ritual if not already Byzantine (I would imagine that there is not a single Eastern Orthodox priest who can perform the Roman Rite
) - if I’m not mistaken, only the Roman Rite (not even the other Western Rites) allow for con-celebration. A second/third priest would have to play the role of Deacon/Sub-Deacon, only one priest may celebrate the Mass in the other rites (just the Extraordinary Form).
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Seraphim73
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I imagine a Western rite priest could wing it okay.Even if we were all one big happy Church, I don’t think con-celebration would be possible.
- the Catholic Priest would have to be bi-Ritual if not already Byzantine (I would imagine that there is not a single Eastern Orthodox priest who can perform the Roman Rite
That’s not the case. I know for a fact the local Greek priest attended the enthronement of the local Roman Catholic bishop.
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Peter_J
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Not to be a stickler for staying on topic; but if I may point out, the topic of the thread is whether a Catholic priest and an Orthodox priest can concelebrate, not whether two priests who are in full communion with each other but of different rites, can concelebrate.
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phil19034
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The point is they cannot concelebrate.
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babochka
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A Catholic priest does not have to be bi-ritual in order to concelebrate in another rite.
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FrDavid96
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Like Sister used to say:
Can they concelebrate? Yes.
May they concelebrate? Generally, no.
For the most part both Catholic and Orthodox norms do not allow their priests to concelebrate with each other. It’s not impossible, though. In places where the Church is persecuted this does happen. It also happens in places where the Catholic and Orthodox communities are so intertwined that there’s little distinction between them.
Many Eastern Catholic priests, and even some Orthodox ones, have no problem concelebrating with each other, so long as there’s no danger of scandal. I anticipate that someone’s going to post “it’s absolutely impossible, it can never happen.” Yet, the fact is that it does happen.
Can they concelebrate? Yes.
May they concelebrate? Generally, no.
For the most part both Catholic and Orthodox norms do not allow their priests to concelebrate with each other. It’s not impossible, though. In places where the Church is persecuted this does happen. It also happens in places where the Catholic and Orthodox communities are so intertwined that there’s little distinction between them.
Many Eastern Catholic priests, and even some Orthodox ones, have no problem concelebrating with each other, so long as there’s no danger of scandal. I anticipate that someone’s going to post “it’s absolutely impossible, it can never happen.” Yet, the fact is that it does happen.
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babochka
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This is particularly true in the Middle East, among Melkites and Antiochian Orthodox, specifically. They identify first as Christian, secondarily as Catholic or Orthodox. There much intermarraige and even officially recognized intercommunion in certain circumstances.
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Seraphim73
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Well the Melkites generally speaking have a much stronger independence streak in regards to their relationship with Rome than the other Catholic Churches. In the Middle East the only way you could tell a difference between them and the Orthodox is listening to who they commemorate during the liturgy. I’m sure you could find examples of priests celebrating together although I doubt it had an official sanction from the hierarchs. Intercommunion of the laity and concelebration of clergy, especially hierarchs, are two very different things. Of course I could be wrong.
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babochka
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This is absolutely right. Intercommunion is common and at times officially sanctioned by both sides. Concelebration is quite rare, and never officially sanctioned.
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