Can Catholics Profess that it is Christ Alone Who Saves?

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The Catholic Church’s teachings on the role of Mary in salvation are supported by both the Bible and Patristics (the writings of the Early Church Fathers).

Mary as the New Eve
In the Garden of Eden, there’s
  • A sinless man, Adam
  • A sinless woman. She’s known in the Garden as “Woman” (Genesis 2:23), and is later named Eve when she becomes “Mother of the Living” (Gen. 3:20)
  • The woman is a virgin, symbolizing her purity from sin.
  • The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gen. 2:9)
  • The Tree of Life (Gen. 2:9)
  • Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, which brings sin and death into the world when they partake of it (Gen. 2:17)
Woman is taken entirely from Adam - instead of two biological parents, she is created asexually through a miraculous action by God, but using the genetic material only from Adam – it’s actually due to this fact that she’s named “Woman” (Gen. 2:23).
Both Adam and Woman are born without sin, but fall into the temptation to eat of the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and death enters the world.

The Redemption lifts the curse of Adam, and it reads like “Eden, take 2.”
  • There’s a sinless Man, Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:15). St. Paul makes the Adam parallel blatant in 1 Corinthians 15:45.
  • There’s a sinless Woman, Mary. Jesus twice refers to Her by the name “*Dear *Woman,” which both alludes to, and distinguishes Her from, Eve (John 2:4; John 19:26). Like Eve, She’s the Mother of the Living (Revelation 12:17). Of course, unlike Eve, Her progeny are spiritual, not physical (just as Christ’s are: see John 3:6).
  • The Woman is a Virgin, symbolizing Her purity from sin (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:18-23).
  • “The Tree” is, of course, the Cross. 1 Peter 2:24 and Galatians 3:13 both explain how Christ took up our sins, and **became **the curse of the Adam, fulfilling the curse on “the Tree,” the terms both passages use. That they refer to it as “the Tree,” and not “the Cross” to make the Eden parallel more blatant.
  • The Tree of Life is the Church, as Revelation 22:2 makes pretty clear (with the “twelve crops” representing the Apostles, who are in turn a fulfillment of the Twelve Tribes under the Old Covenant).
  • Christ is the fruit, as Galatians 3:13 makes clear. Just as the fruit of the first tree was sin, Christ becomes sin, that is, becomes the fruit, and is put up on the Tree to replace the fruit which was taken disobediently. But notice that even this context is Marian: it’s in Luke 1:42 that Elizabeth proclaims to Mary, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!”
  • While Eve came entirely from Adam, the reverse is true here: the “last Adam,” Christ, is Flesh and Blood entirely from the last Eve, Mary. So it’s Mary’s physical body which God forms Jesus from, and Her flesh becomes His Flesh, and the salvation of the world.
The curse in Genesis prophesied the fulfillment of the curse in Christ, and included Mary’s unique role: in Genesis 3:15, God says to Satan, “And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and hers; he* will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

Now, normally, the "seed’ is measured through the man, as verses like Genesis 38:9 make clear – about the only exception is when a promise is that a *specific *woman will give birth (for example: God makes promises to Abraham for his seed, but also to a seed for Hagar, meaning a lineage separate from the one that Abraham will enjoy through Isaac – Genesis 16:10). Note that even though Adam is also present, it’s the “Seed of the Woman” which Satan needs to be worried about. So from the very start, God had a specific and individual role for Mary in the plan of salvation. It was Mary who bore Christ, and who taught Him, who was with Him from Womb to Tomb and beyond.

This has been called co-redemption, but due to the ambiguities of the term (namely, that it sounds like She half saved the world, when that’s not what the Church teaches or has taught), that term isn’t favored with Pope Benedict. It’s a poor term for an accurate dogma.

*There’s an issue her with the gender of the word used - it’s neuter. So it might be “He” (Christ), “She” (Mary), They (offspring, or Jesus and Mary together). That’s a separate issue. Even if it means “He,” as most modern Bibles have concluded, He is still the seed of the Woman.
 
In 180 A.D., before the term “Trinity” had ever been coined, we find one of the Church Fathers, St. Irenaeus, explaining exactly what I said in the last post. This is fromBook III of Against Heresies:
  1. In accordance with this design, Mary the Virgin is found obedient, saying, “Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word.” But Eve was disobedient; for she did not obey when as yet she was a virgin. And even as she, having indeed a husband, Adam, but being nevertheless as yet a virgin (for in Paradise “they were both naked, and were not ashamed,” inasmuch as they, having been created a short time previously, had no understanding of the procreation of children: for it was necessary that they should first come to adult age, and then multiply from that time onward), having become disobedient, was made the cause of death, both to herself and to the entire human race; so also did **Mary, **having a man betrothed [to her], and being nevertheless a virgin, **by yielding obedience, become the cause of salvation, both to herself and the whole human race. **And on this account does the law term a woman betrothed to a man, the wife of him who had betrothed her, although she was as yet a virgin; thus **indicating the back-reference from Mary to Eve, because what is joined together could not otherwise be put asunder than by inversion of the process by which these bonds of union had arisen; ** so that the former ties be cancelled by the latter, that the latter may set the former again at liberty. And it has, in fact, happened that the first compact looses from the second tie, but that the second tie takes the position of the first which has been cancelled. For this reason did the Lord declare that the first should in truth be last, and the last first. And the prophet, too, indicates the same, saying, “instead of fathers, children have been born unto thee.” For the Lord, having been born “the First- begotten of the dead,” and receiving into His bosom the ancient fathers, has regenerated them into the life of God, He having been made Himself the beginning of those that live, as Adam became the beginning of those who die. Wherefore also Luke, commencing the genealogy with the Lord, carried it back to Adam, indicating that it was He who regenerated them into the Gospel of life, and not they Him. And thus also it was that **the knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary. For what the virgin Eve had bound fast through unbelief, this did the virgin Mary set free through faith. **
 
Something that is quite humorous, but which Protestants seem to ignore, is the fact that Catholics agree with Christ Alone, Grace Alone, and Glory to God Alone. 🙂
 
As an Anglican, I profess that it is by Christ alone that one is granted Salvation. Do Catholics profess this same thing?
The world itself was granted salvation by Christ’s life, as well as those who choose to worship Him as the living God. We must also repent of our sins. I agree with those who have said we must do our part.
 
I’m afraid that when you ask what Catholics believe, you must rely on the Catechism and not the responses of the “folks.” Many lay Catholics are not well educated in their own faith and as a result can at times give answers to such questions that mislead non-Catholics about the teachings of the Catholic Church. As a convert from and Evangelical Fundamentalist background, I’m well aware of how people take responses from less educated Catholics as PROOF of what the Church really teaches. Regardless of what individual Catholics say they believe, what the Church believes is laid out in the Catechism.

Yours in Christ,
I am well aware of that. Why can’t that courtesy be extended to Protestants? Why can’t Catholics acknowledge that other churches have doctrines that not all of their members adhere to as well. Many Catholics especially here on CAF like to portrait Protestant churches as being either wishy washy or believe as you will when the problem is actually the same as what takes place in Catholic churches. I went to mass once when the priest told the parishioners, and I quote,“praying to Jesus would not do you any good whatsoever.”
 
You mean you can’t even mention that Christ has a mother, lest that mention somehow grant her salvific status? Why do you think that God had Jesus born of a woman?
God could have chosen an infinite number of ways for the Word to be made flesh. Why be encapsulated by the means by which he chose versus why he did it?
 
Something that is quite humorous, but which Protestants seem to ignore, is the fact that Catholics agree with Christ Alone, Grace Alone, and Glory to God Alone. 🙂
That’s not what I’ve heard from the majority of Catholics I’ve spoken to.
 
My problem with that is that Scripture tells us that there is no other name than Christ by which we are saved, so why does Mary or anyone else have to be mentioned in this aspect. We all who are saved cooperate with Christ, not as part of our Salvation, but because of it.
Hi Cramer
Luke Chapter one details quite a bit of Mary, unfortunately we cannot ask Luke, so we must rely on the most ancient,Holy,Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Church instituted by Christ, and given the keys to the Kingdom.

God Bless
Onenow1coffee:🙂
 
That’s not what I’ve heard from the majority of Catholics I’ve spoken to.
Cranmer, we have answered all your questions as to what we believe.You have not accepted any of our answers. You continue you to presume to tell us what ***you ***believe the Apostolic Church believes and teaches, and you are mistaken.

I question why you are really here visiting with us? Peace, Carlan
 
That’s not what I’ve heard from the majority of Catholics I’ve spoken to.
Sounds like you think at least some catholics, believe Christ alone, the sampling you have in actuality are probably not the majority,if given some critical thought…

Peace
 
This is by far the best response yet to my question. As an Anglican, I can in a sense concur with participating with good works, but not in the sense that they have anything to do with me being saved, but rather as a Christ inspired response to being saved.
While it is closer to the Apostolic teaching than some of the beliefs of our Reformed brethren, this perception is still deficient.

We are not saved on the basis of good works, but on the basis of grace, through faith. The works that He prepared beforehand, however, are part and parcel of that salvation. Salvation begins when we are justified (placed in right relationship with God) through repentance and baptism. This is the initiation or beginnning of our walk with Him, through which we are sanctified. The good works that we are to do as part of our sanctification help us to grow in holiness, and produce evangelization. These things are not separated from initial justification.
 
Our Lady was full of God because she lived for God alone, yet she thought of herself only as the handmaid of the Lord. Let us do the same. Mother Teresa of Calcutta.]

God Bless All
 
Knowing exactly how it is we are to be saved is one of the most important questions I could ever think of. That’s why…
I think that if you begin your intellectual journey towards attempting to
understand God and His Salvation… you could save yourself a lot
of frustrations… by first seeing that it is not you who saves yourself
with some intellectual “concept” formula but that God Saves you
through the Shed Blood of Jesus…

When you open your “Will” through your intellect to the Truth
of God… you will then begin to allow God to infuse your human
nature with the Divine Nature which is “missing” and you are
then in the process of being saved as you put it.

The Catholic view of Salvation is much more sophisticated than a mere
one time emotional response which might be motivated from our human
instinct to keep from going into the fire pit… But that we have something
important missing from within our Souls… and we need the Grace of God
to come to us and infuse us through the prayers of our fellow church members
along with the church’s Sacrament system.

Along with our and within our Salvation we realize that we need to change
are human vices into human virtues… We do this within our Church’s means
to help us to achieve our soul’s growth with and within the Grace of God.

We believe this connection was established at our water Baptism moment.
From the witness of our family, God Parents and other members of our
Church…

Your question is a good one… and it should be answered with some fine points
in detail of what The Catholic church teaches as what our Salvation is and how
it works within us…

I think you can see that this simple basic question will require some deep levels
of studying and thinking from you position… I hope you can continue on with
your thinking in regards to this most essential question of Faith.
 
Catholicism professes Mary to be co-redemptrix of souls and co-mediatrix with Christ which would make Jesus not soley the redeemer of souls and Mary a mediator with Christ. Is this not correct?
No, you have misunderstood the position of the Church on this statement…

The church recognizes that Mary was Asked to participate in the birth
of the Savior… She was given the right to accept this call from God
or to not accept it… When she accepted this call from God we
call that the first Christian who exercised a proclamation of Faith.

We say… that if Mary would not have accept the human form of God
to be developed in her womb. We would have had Jesus as the flesh which
lived among us.

That is what is meant as the co-redemptrix with Jesus…

She did not help him offer up her blood to God as Jesus did…
but if had not given him a body then he could not have done
what he did… and we honor her for helping to bring our Salvation
to us in this world…

We honor her, but we do not worship her or think she can do anything
to help us… herself… or to be equal to Jesus… we think that because she
took the wine request of the wedding at Cana. for the good of the people
we think she can do that for us also… and we ask her to take our petition prayers
to God.
 
Thank you. I’m well aware of what the Catechism says. I was interested in hearing what some folks’ responses would be.
Ok, just so long as you realize that if they respond differently, they are expressing faith that is not Catholic.
 
Catholicism professes Mary to be co-redemptrix of souls and co-mediatrix with Christ which would make Jesus not soley the redeemer of souls and Mary a mediator with Christ. Is this not correct?
You are under the misapprehension that co-redemptrix is a usurpation of Christ’s authority.

When Christians use the term “co-heirs” with Christ, it is not a usurpation of Christ’s authority.

When Christians use the term “co-creators” with God, it is not a usurpation of God’s authority.

So why should “co-redemptrix” be understood in any different manner?

Unless you object to the very Scriptural term “co-heir”?
 
My problem with that is that Scripture tells us that there is no other name than Christ by which we are saved, so why does Mary or anyone else have to be mentioned in this aspect. We all who are saved cooperate with Christ, not as part of our Salvation, but because of it.
I think that you might be a bit confused as to what is thought of by Catholics
as in regards to " God’s Salvation"… We believe that Salvation is becoming
a member of God’s Family… when we begin receiving God’s Grace directly
into our souls. we sense the need to “work out our Salvation” by putting
off the sins of yesterday and to begin to develop our new life from being
reborn… We receive the nourishment of God’s Grace to grow into a
Christian person and we do this through the Sacraments of the church
and through personal prayer among other Christians in our churches…

We pray to Mary, and the Saints to take our personal petitions to God.
As the bible teaches us can be done for the growth of our becoming
the New person that Paul wrote about…

In other words… we seek to become the Christian we should and could
be with the Grace of God… and that receiving God’s Grace is not just
for us to go to God when we die… But that he sends us his Grace
through many means for us to become holy as we live here and through
out our lives… so that we can be a living “witness” for the love of God
to the people in our lives.

You are mistaking the position of Mary in the church as you are only
thinking that the Salvation process is only for getting into Heaven when
we die… We are taught, and I believe that God’s Salvation is an actual
infuse of God’s “actual” Grace within the essence of our souls. And it
is this new nature, which is inwardly growing daily, that we do the Christian acts
which we do.

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