Can demons posses Dead bodies

[TheOldColonel]

Ok. But let me know if you need my help.

 

[sudy]

Funnily enough, my mother has just loaned me this book without any prompting… even though you did mention it to me some days ago. I’d actually forgotten all about my St Hildegard query as I’m not really one for reading about prophecies and eschatology stuff.

There’s no imprimatur but apparently originally written by a Catholic priest and was published in French in 1881 under the title Fin du Monde Présent et Mystères de la Vie Future, this is a translation of that book. There is a recommendation by St Thérèse of Lisieux inside. Anyway, I will read it.

 

[Cruciferi]

because a demon infests a spirit first,

You’re wrong.

That is correct.

 

[Roguish]

I’m afraid it’s just the opposite.

Demons don’t do that. That’s the work of either wandering spirits, or magic performed by a living sorcerer.

 

[Roguish]

Hm… But in a post earlier in the thread @sudy linked an article quoting St. Hildegard as follows:

He [the Antichrist] will seem to take away health and restore it. How so? By sending some possessed soul into a dead body, to move it for a time.

You yourself commented that you’d read it, and that it was referenced in a book from which you posted a page, remember?

As you can see, St. Hildegard is saying that the soul is possessed, and thus (i.e. indirectly) does a possessing entity (i.e. a demon) get to move a body. This is precisely what I myself said.

In closing, the problem with the RCC’s current teaching on the matter (not in Hildegard’s days, as you can see) is that somewhere along the way the RCC’s theology (or demonology) started confusing terms. In particular, the word soul is used to designate various things that aren’t the same – which is why I offered “spirit”. Simplest proof of the RCC teaching’s current terminology problem is that the RCC now claims animals don’t have souls, while in fact the word animal itself (derived from Latin anima of course) literally means “creature with a soul”.

 

[Cruciferi]

That’s the work of either wandering spirits

There’s no wandering. You are judged and go to Heaven, Hell, or Purgatory.

 

[Cruciferi]

In closing, the problem with the RCC’s current teaching on the matter (not in Hildegard’s days, as you can see) is that somewhere along the way the RCC’s theology (or demonology) started confusing terms. In particular, the word soul is used to designate various things that aren’t the same – which is why I offered “spirit”.

So you know better than the Church?
Is this why you practice Roguishism?

Simplest proof of the RCC teaching’s current terminology problem is that the RCC now claims animals don’t have souls,

They lack immortal souls. You should know this…

 

[CapitalistCatholic]

Zombies are an anti-sacrament. Just as we eat the true flesh and blood of Christ, Zombies consume the flesh and blood of living beings.

 

[Roguish]

Zombies are an anti-sacrament. Just as we eat the true flesh and blood of Christ, Zombies consume the flesh and blood of living beings.

That’s a very profound post, when you think about it. (Apparently you did.) Thanks.

 

[abucs]

Possessing dead bodies defeats their original mission which is to deviate living humans away from reaching the Father. The dead is already dead. Therefore, they don’t possess the dead as it is pointless.

I would also assume that in theory they would not be able to animate the body as they would need the co-operation of the person who is already dead.

Interesting to think about the connection between demons and matter and also the difference between matter and living matter with regards to demon access. Does the demon in fact possess the body or in some way the soul which is inanimate but then controls the body (while it is alive).

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