Can depression in some ways actually make us look at the world how we should

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Okay, i going to get straight into this:

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept death knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

Then you have the non-depressive people who are scared of death, they value their life here on earth even though they know the kingdom of heaven is paradise, they still want to live a long life here.

Should christians not look forward to dealth no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?
 
peaceandmercy said:
Okay, i going to get straight into this:

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept death knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

Then you have the non-depressive people who are scared of death, they value their life here on earth even though they know the kingdom of heaven is paradise, they still want to live a long life here.

Should Christians not look forward to death no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?
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A priest once told a story in answer to a question similar to this. It goes: Michelangelo was 60 years old. He we tired, fed up with his employers, and tired of the infighting surrounding his work. He decided to quit, go home, and live out his final days. He packed his mule and headed out of town. From a hill overlooking Rome on his journey home he looked back at the city. And what Michelangelo did not know at that time was that one third of his life and two thirds of his greatest works still lay ahead of him.

If I have lived my life in accordance with the will of our Lord, I look forward to being dead and thus alive in His Kingdom. But I think it is my responsibility to accept the life I have been given and be open every day to the possibility that there is something more I can do for the good of mankind (even if it is only for one person) and the glory of God. It is the virtue called hope. Embrace it.

Shalom
 
joeybaggz said:
A priest once told a story in answer to a question similar to this. It goes: Michelangelo was 60 years old. He we tired, fed up with his employers, and tired of the infighting surrounding his work. He decided to quit, go home, and live out his final days. He packed his mule and headed out of town. From a hill overlooking Rome on his journey home he looked back at the city. And what Michelangelo did not know at that time was that one third of his life and two thirds of his greatest works still lay ahead of him.

If I have lived my life in accordance with the will of our Lord, I look forward to being dead and thus alive in His Kingdom. But I think it is my responsibility to accept the life I have been given and be open every day to the possibility that there is something more I can do for the good of mankind (even if it is only for one person) and the glory of God. It is the virtue called hope. Embrace it.

Shalom
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Thanks for sharing the story of Michelangelo. It make an excellent point. Also, what a wonderful answer.

God Bless,
Mary.
 
OP I am not quite sure what you are asking?

I suffer what many would call depression because of a debilitating illness. Most of each day abed now and pain my companion.

But I know what this is and know also that this life is a gift from God and a very precious one we should be thankful for and live fully for Him and for others.

I love the gifts He gives. The so called tiny joys and the great ones. My present and my future are in His hands. And i am totally happy with that and will enjoy all He gives fully and thankfully .

A flower, the song of a bird, the taste of food.

Jesus did not despise these things. He loved them. LIFE.
 
Rosebud77 said:
OP I am not quite sure what you are asking?

I suffer what many would call depression because of a debilitating illness. Most of each day abed now and pain my companion.

But I know what this is and know also that this life is a gift from God and a very precious one we should be thankful for and live fully for Him and for others.

I love the gifts He gives. The so called tiny joys and the great ones. My present and my future are in His hands. And i am totally happy with that and will enjoy all He gives fully and thankfully .

A flower, the song of a bird, the taste of food.

Jesus did not despise these things. He loved them. LIFE.
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Your posts are so inspirational!~

God Bless,

Mary.
 
peaceandmercy said:
Okay, i going to get straight into this:

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept death knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

Then you have the non-depressive people who are scared of death, they value their life here on earth even though they know the kingdom of heaven is paradise, they still want to live a long life here.

Should christians not look forward to dealth no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?
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There are opposing opinions whether depressed people have a better perception of reality in the field of psychology, but as having my Ph.D. in psychology and having pondered the question and personal observations, I’m very confident in say that there exist certain groups of depression that do indeed have a better perception of reality, myself included.

As long as it’s in God’s will, I see no reason whatsoever not to pray for an early death, but again, God may have plans for us that we do not yet fully comprehend.
 
When depressed we are probably seeing things at one extreme and on the other extreme is seeing things through rose colored glasses. So my answer to the question in the title is no. We need to find balance, a middle way. We have too many extremes in our lives in my view.
As for the last question of the op “Should Christians not look …?” I can’t speak to that.
 
puzzledtoo said:
When depressed we are probably seeing things at one extreme and on the other extreme is seeing things through rose colored glasses. So my answer to the question in the title is no. We need to find balance, a middle way. We have too many extremes in our lives in my view.
As for the last question of the op “Should Christians not look …?” I can’t speak to that.
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In viewing reality I do not believe there is a balance–either you perceive the world as it really is or you don’t. I think certain groups of depressed people see the evil realities that exist, like diseases such as cancer and dementia, pains of all sorts, extreme poverty, all kinds of serious sins, mental illnesses, addictions, and negative emotions like anger and rage, to mention just a few. My being aware of these realities cause me to want Heaven ASAP.
 
I’ve suffered from depression in the past. Depression is a mood disorder which is quite easily dealt with by medical treatment. If you mean that this world is often depressing to us that is one thing but I wouldn’t want people who have clinical depression to think that they see the world as it really is.
 
I think it’s better to be positive, no matter how bad the world seems. Depression just brings you down. It is better to look at the bright side of life, and see the silver linings. What’s the good in seeing all the bad things?
 
Rosebud77 said:
OP I am not quite sure what you are asking?

I suffer what many would call depression because of a debilitating illness. Most of each day abed now and pain my companion.

But I know what this is and know also that this life is a gift from God and a very precious one we should be thankful for and live fully for Him and for others.

I love the gifts He gives. The so called tiny joys and the great ones. My present and my future are in His hands. And i am totally happy with that and will enjoy all He gives fully and thankfully .

A flower, the song of a bird, the taste of food.

Jesus did not despise these things. He loved them. LIFE.
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Reading this, you moved me, it’s people like you that i want the best for in life, you really are strong where it counts.
 
The more spiritual a man desires to become, the more bitter does this present life grow for him, for he sees and realizes more clearly the defects and corruptions of human nature. For to eat and drink, to wake and sleep, to rest and labour, and to be subject to all the necessities of nature is a great trouble and affliction to the devout man, who would rather be released and set free from all sin.

The inner life of man is greatly hindered in this life by the needs of the body. Thus, the Prophet devoutly prays that he may be set free from them, saying, “Lord, deliver me from my necessities!” Woe to those who refuse to recognize their own wretchedness, and doubly woe to those who love this miserable and corruptible life! For some cling so closely to it, that although by working or begging they can hardly win the bare necessities, they would yet be willing to live here for ever if it were possible, caring nothing for the Kingdom of God.
*–On Human Misery, The Imitation of Christ *
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Nothing brings me more optimism and joy as a depressed person! Any Catholic reading this should know that it’s true and live their life accordingly! Never take your sight off of God or His Heavenly Kingdom!
 
Robert_Sock said:
In viewing reality I do not believe there is a balance–either you perceive the world as it really is or you don’t. I think certain groups of depressed people see the evil realities that exist, like diseases such as cancer and dementia, pains of all sorts, extreme poverty, all kinds of serious sins, mental illnesses, addictions, and negative emotions like anger and rage, to mention just a few. My being aware of these realities cause me to want Heaven ASAP.
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In viewing reality I do not believe there is a balance–either you perceive the world as it really is or you don’t. I think certain groups of depressed people see the evil realities that exist, like diseases such as cancer and dementia, pains of all sorts, extreme poverty, all kinds of serious sins, mental illnesses, addictions, and negative emotions like anger and rage, to mention just a few. My being aware of these realities cause me to want “die and go back to non existence” ASAP.

Some common grounds.
 
peaceandmercy said:
Okay, i going to get straight into this:

Personally, i could rid myself of all personal belongings and accept death knowing that God existed, i just see this world as a testing ground, i’m happy to go after fulfilling whatever it is i’m meant to do here, i don’t want to stay in a world shared by the devil.

Then you have the non-depressive people who are scared of death, they value their life here on earth even though they know the kingdom of heaven is paradise, they still want to live a long life here.

Should christians not look forward to dealth no matter what age they die provided they’ve lived a clean life and have been obedient to Christ?
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No. If you’re depressed then you’re mentally ill. I was, I know what you mean. Btw at least one of those posting on this thread has not told you they previously said they’re being treated for depression.

Here’s an ambulance taking a baby to hospital. The local police were asked to help. Count the police who came out to help. That’s you dude. You are precious.

youtu.be/Sj9_5H1nqfo
 
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