Can gays be catholic?

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NewUlm1976_2000 said:
Of course you can. They are a Catholic Church, communion is as valid there as any other Catholic Church. Consider the second greatest commandment when thinking about “gay friendly”.
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My concern is that he may have a priest telling him that his sexual sins are his own business and not sins at all. What does “gay friendly” mean?

That’s what bothers me. Technically true that the Eucharist may be valid - but what’s coming out of the priest’s mouth at the pulpit may not be helping anyone, and may be doing more harm than good.

~Liza
 
iamrefreshed said:
Maybe someone will get through one day but I fear that, with all the pro-homosexuality posted by people claiming to be catholic, he will eventually hear what he wishes.

To the person who tries to convince Teen that homosexuality is OK, I remind you of the millstone, your neck and the sea.
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See what I mean. Reference posts 38 & 39

That poster is using his/her misguided views of church teaching and thereby confusing this young Teen who is at a crossroads. I guess Satan can work in many ways!:mad:
 
Sure as long as they remain celibate, just like any other non married Catholic.

Now is that reasonable or even possible for people to live alone and deny their nature? I don’t know, I know a life of celibacy for me would be impossible, I’m lucky I married before I died or I would be getting the hot foot right now.

If science concludes SSA is genetic and the person has no choice in the matter it seems like the church may have to reassess their stance on homosexuals.
 
NewUlm1976_2000 said:
Of course they can. Catholic means universal, and their “sin” in some people’s eyes (I do not believe it is, it is just the who they are) is no worse than other sins everyone else does. They are just normal, regular people.
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I think so as well but part of me thinks otherwise.

Honestly, I’m very confused.
 
People trip over homosexuality and I do believe it’s sinful just like all fornication is. However it seems like many Catholics are a lot less concerned with the fact that thier children are largely sexually active before marriage. It’s no different, it’s still a sin, but for some reason I think most Catholics just think it’s acceptable or innevitable, but homosexuality will damn the person.

Frankly I think the vast majority of us are getting the hot foot and Jim and Jack will get the same punishment as Jack and Jane for out of wedlock fornication.

I went to a Catholic school I didn’t know one person who abstained from sexual activity, it’s just not much of a reality today.
 
Teen4Christ said:
I think so as well but part of me thinks otherwise.

Honestly, I’m very confused.
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Don’t be confused on this Teen. Everyone here (other than newulm1976_2000) has told you what the church teaches.

Do not take the opinion of someone who dissents from church teaching. That person is doing you no favor.
 
Teen4Christ said:
Can they?:confused:
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Why would we want to?

You tell us our lives are filled with sin, that there’s something wrong with us mentally, and that we should be celibate and not dissent.

We’re not allowed to kiss other men (or other women). We’re not allowed to go on dates with another man or another woman. We’re not allowed to hold hands in a romantic way or share a bed together with another man or another woman. We’re not allowed to adopt children as a couple. We’re allowed to be discriminated against in all different walks of life - in the secular world, even if they’re not catholic as the current Pope clearly stated in this document. (Well, romantic hand holding and kissing isn’t not officially against church teaching, but a good Catholic should never do those things with someone of the same sex) And even if we fully believe all of this and don’t engage in it, we’re not allowed to enter the seminary because they’re afraid we might molest children.

Ha.

It’s kinda like a black man wanting to join the KKK today, or a Jew wanting to join a neo-nazi group.

Gay people people shouldn’t be Catholic. And if they are, I think they’re supporting an institution that oppresses them.
 
I guess a bigger question, as I read through this thread is…if any of us is sinning–but does not believe it to be sin–can we still claim to be Catholic? (Mortal sin must have three things–one being that we must acknowledge that it is sin we are doing) I have had times in my life, where I had a mortal sin to confess …and was I not a Catholic before confession, and then, I was afterwards? I think that a gay person can be labeled a Catholic…but would not be able to receive the Eucharist, if there is mortal sin to confess. (A chaste homosexual could very well receive Communion, if not in a state of mortal sin otherwise) But, if someone doesn’t see his/her sin–then what?

Maybe I’m making it more complicated than it is.😛
 
Exalt said:
Gay people people shouldn’t be Catholic. And if they are, I think they’re supporting an institution that oppresses them.
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I hope you realize you are giving this advice to an impressionable teenager who is agonizing over his faith and having SSA?😦
 
Here’s my two cents for what it’s worth.
Catholicism is so very beautiful. Do whatever it takes to be a Catholic and you’ll carry that beauty within you. We can’t all be married. We can’t all be priests and nuns. But we are all called to holiness. I don’t know what it’s like to be gay; but I know about celibacy. It’s the best and only choice for Catholic gays and singles. I see it as a calling. Yes, it’s difficult; but it gets easier as time passes. Try not to think about sex. Just put the thoughts from your mind as they appear. Avoid the sex scenes in movies or on t.v. (fast forward, mute…then watch the rest of the show). Exercise, eat well. Make your holiness more important than sex. You can’t do it all at once. Just keep trying every day. Cultivate other interests. Read Catholic theologians; read C.S. Lewis; watch EWTN.
It might be a life long struggle; but your control will get stronger. Temptations will assail all of us in every station of life. If you fall, get up. Go to confession often; even if you have no mortal sins, confess your faults and venial sins. Get lists online of examination of conscience. The grace you receive will carry you. Get into your Catholicism. It is the most precious thing you can win on this earth. I wish you well. Pax et Bonum.
 
Teen4Christ. You are in my prayers. It is as simple as this.

You cannot have any kind of sex outside of marriage-that is a mortal sin

Gay people cannot be married.

Therefore there is no opportunity for homosexual sex within the Catholic Church, as indicated above, to engage in it would be a mortal sin.

If you have any unconfessed mortal sins you may not recieve Christ in the Eucharist. The Catholic Church is not anti gay, it is anti sin, engaging in same sex relations is just one of those sins. There are hundreds of other types of sin, most of which have little to do with sexuality.

Exalt. You might aswel say that the Church oppresses kleptomaniacs. They too, have urges to do something the Church expressly forbids.
 
Exalt said:
They actually hurt people.

Holding Tommy’s hand doesn’t.
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Now now. An active homosexual does more than hold hands. Everyone has their crosses to bear. Nobody ever said they would all be of equal weight.
 
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