Can God be Guilty Of Murder and Genocide?

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If God comes down and takes your life from you, is he guilty of murder? If God wipes out a race of people is he guilty of genocide?
 
The short answer: No.

I believe God is merciful and just. If he takes away someone’s life, He would be acting within His nature which would be mercifully or with justice.
 
No christian will ever give you any answer other then “no”.

By definition, he is exempt from any standard of behavior he imposes on Christianity.
 
God is all good.
Murder and killing, not good.
It’s not possible.
Not because we’re Christians but because HE is GOD.
 
Bell(name removed by moderator) said:
By definition, he is exempt from any standard of behavior he imposes on Christianity.
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Even civil law applies differently to persons in different stations and circumstances, and without prejudice to justice. I cannot do the same things a president does, or a general, or even a soldier. Not because those positions are exempt from moral standards (assuming good law), but because they have authority which I do not. God, being the author of everything, has unlimited authority including the authority to give and take life. The reason we can only take life under some circumstances is that the life does not belong to us. It does, however, belong to God.
 
Working with the definition of murder as the unjustified killing of an innocent human life then I would say that God is not guilty of that. However, is it metaphysically possible? I Suppose it could be depending on your definition of God. But, if God is defined as the greatest conceivable being then he must be all good, since good is better than evil. If God were not all good then he could not be supreme since we could imagine something better than him. Scripture says that within God there is no evil. Thus, God must act according to his nature which is all good. And thus he could not be found guilty of unjust murder or genocide, even if it might appear that way to a superficial outside observer, who can not have all the evidence, including what goes on after death.
 
God is all Good & all Perfect. He created all life and if He found cause to destroy that life…He can do so, since He would know the reason.

God could have done away with Adam & Eve when they disobeyed Him, but He decided instead to redeem all of mankind through Jesus, the 2nd Person of the Blessed Trinity!
 
IWantGod said:
If God comes down and takes your life from you, is he guilty of murder? If God wipes out a race of people is he guilty of genocide?
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God being Who He is. Who can even come close to judging Him guilty??
 
IWantGod said:
Assume that they are all without sin.
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There is a famous quote in the New Testament that says something to the effect of ‘he who is without sin, cast the first stone’. The implication being that none of those he was speaking to was without sin. We are all sinners. If I assume that they are all without sin, you’re asking me that they all be like Adam and Eve before the fall. So going with your presumption that they are all without sin, then God would not wipe them out, so your questions would not be applicable. If God were to destroy Adam and Eve and they were sinless…well that not only goes against God’s nature, it’s unbiblical since (as the story goes) Adam and Eve did not merit death until after their fall from grace.
 
IWantGod said:
Assume that they are all without sin.
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Depends on your definition of kill. If God comes down and kills 10 sinless people what happens?

Do they go to heaven? That sounds more like giving someone CPR and hurting their chest a little while bringing them back to life. Only since it is heaven, we are more talking like giving tbem CPR and then giving them Bill Gates level fortune to live in luxurious splendor FOREVER.

People apply all too much mortal humanity to God and therefore come up with things that make no sense if you understand the concepts God has given us.

If I tell you my stocks are down that sounds bad.
If you understand I have solid dividend reinvestment and I am getting more stock for my money and when the stocks go back up I will have made more… my stocks being down right now doesn’t sound bad now does it?

Limited comprehension of a topic alters its appearanc greatly.
 
IWantGod said:
If God comes down and takes your life from you, is he guilty of murder? If God wipes out a race of people is he guilty of genocide?
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All that He creates belongs to Him including our lives. He only takes what is His to take. Temporal life is sacred but not an absolute value. He knows and does what is best for the eternal salvation of our souls.

All will die (unless you’re alive at the Parousia). God’s plan may shorten our temporal life for good cause. If one is riddled with cancer, does not death end this evil disease? If a tribe sacrifices infants to a pagan god, does not their deaths end the evil practice?
 
Bell(name removed by moderator) said:
No christian will ever give you any answer other then “no”.

By definition, he is exempt from any standard of behavior he imposes on Christianity.
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This is, I think, the bluntest and bravest response to such a question. This is to say “God holds us to a different standard than he holds himself” and it requires us to ask “then which standard represents true goodness?”
 
JapaneseKappa said:
This is, I think, the bluntest and bravest response to such a question. This is to say “God holds us to a different standard than he holds himself” and it requires us to ask “then which standard represents true goodness?”
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But, it is simply not true. God is not like man that he should lie. I would rather listen to God than all the theories of man.
 
IWantGod said:
If God comes down and takes your life from you, is he guilty of murder? If God wipes out a race of people is he guilty of genocide?
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God doesn’t kill anyone. He does, however, send his angels to reap the harvest; yet he restores their life in eternity.
 
Murder is the unlawful taking of a life. If there was no law against it, it wouldn’t be murder. God makes His own laws.

I think that you can work it out from there.
 
Reflecting what happens in reality, one hears people asking the opposite.
Why doesn’t God kill the rapists, the thieves and tyrants?
How could he allow the holocaust?
Today’s Gospel reads:
Jesus proposed a parable to the crowds.
“The Kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man
who sowed good seed in his field.
While everyone was asleep his enemy came
and sowed weeds all through the wheat, and then went off.
When the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well.
The slaves of the householder came to him and said,
‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field?
Where have the weeds come from?’
He answered, ‘An enemy has done this.’
His slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
He replied, ‘No, if you pull up the weeds
you might uproot the wheat along with them.
Let them grow together until harvest;
then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters,
“First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles for burning;
but gather the wheat into my barn.”
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But then, the parable is meant for self-reflection.
 
No.

He is the CREATOR

We are merely His creations.

No matter how high my IQ is or your IQ is, God’s IQ is infinity.

God is INFINITE in every way.

And don’t you ever forget it.

Just because He allows you to share in some grace or other, we are merely creations.

Just because He has given you a voice, or a brain, that means nothing.

We can use our gifts for His purposes.

And that’s about it.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
No.

He is the CREATOR

We are merely His creations.

No matter how high my IQ is or your IQ is, God’s IQ is infinity.

God is INFINITE in every way.

And don’t you ever forget it.

Just because He allows you to share in some grace or other, we are merely creations.

Just because He has given you a voice, or a brain, that means nothing.

We can use our gifts for His purposes.

And that’s about it.
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Might makes Right is not really a good answer. Some other posters have given some good answers to this thread.

The one that stands out to me is how we define murder, that is, taking something that doesn’t belong to you. The act of existence by which we find our selves to be real belongs to God, and thus even if we are innocent, without sin, in principle when God takes a life God is taking what belongs to him in the first place. Therefore it is not murder.
 
Bradski said:
Murder is the unlawful taking of a life. If there was no law against it, it wouldn’t be murder. God makes His own laws.

I think that you can work it out from there.
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That is might makes right.

The definition of God that i abide by doesn’t create his own laws but rather laws are a reflection of God’s intrinsic nature and its relationship with creation.
 
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