If I asked you to make a square circle, would I be asking you to do anything? No.How can that be !!!, here is a question for you:
Are spirits bound by our own physics law (can you through a rock on a spirit and hurt it)?
GOD is the only one who can bind spirits to the physics law, for example, when He creates us, our spirits are bound to our fleshes, and when JESUS took His flesh body He became subject to physics law such as gravity, pain, etc, and when JESUS forced the bad spirits into the pigs then drowned into the sea.
I wish that they, and you, would, too.Anyone that has read this thread can provide that information.
Fair enough. I will assume you have not read the thread and simply repeat the answer I like best…I wish that they, and you, would, too.
The answers never addressed the idea I presented. Here it is again.Fair enough. I will assume you have not read the thread and simply repeat the answer I like best…
Yes. If God wants to, he can make a weight that he would be unable to lift.
Of course, should God decide to change his mind, he will be able to lift the weight.
Right; it is semantic worldplay.Can God make a weight that he cannot lift?
This question contains a mistake that, invariably, no-one notices, not even philosophers.
The mistake is the broken idea that something that cannot be lifted is a weight.
If you wish to believe it is simple word play and a nonsensical request, that is fine by me.The answers never addressed the idea I presented. Here it is again.
A weight that necessarily cannot be lifted is a contradiction. So we aren’t asking God to make anything, let alone lift something.
This must be the tenth time I’ve said this. Didn’t you read my post? You did read my post? Then you will know that a weight that necessarily cannot be lifted is a contradiction. So we aren’t asking God to make anything, let alone lift something.
Why wouldn’t it be a better definition of Omnipotence to be able to dictate what is possible?Right; it is semantic worldplay.
Omnipotence is not the ability to do anything. It is the ability to do anything which is possible.
This is an excellent question. I like it.Can God make a weight that he cannot lift?
This question contains a mistake that, invariably, no-one notices, not even philosophers.
The mistake is the broken idea that something that cannot be lifted is a weight.
“Can God make a weight that he cannot lift”, is not a question.This is an excellent question. I like it.
You need to define weight first. The only weight I see that He has chosen not to be able to lift, only because He has decided this from his Will; is “human free-will”.
God does not force you to belive in Him. You have the will to do good or evil. God doesn’t intervene in this.
Omnipotence does not bear onIf you wish to believe it is simple word play and a nonsensical request, that is fine by me.
I am simply addressing the omnipotence of God.
Why wouldn’t it be a better definition of Omnipotence to be able to dictate what is possible?
God is present at Mass. The priest lifts God up above the Altar for all to see.
Is that logically possible? The creator of all, that is beyond our created universe in every way is now appearing as bread. God is lifted by the priest. The congregation looks upon God, ingests God.
You can drop the Body, it will fall. This body has no inate ability to do anything much beyond occupy space and nourish us.
Place a pebble on top of it, the Precious Body cannot move it.
And yet this same God created everything…is all powerful.
Let us not dive too depend too much on the word ‘logical’
God is beyond our logic.
God won’t and can’t do anything if we haven’t asked him to do anything, whether or not he is omnipotent.Right; it is semantic worldplay.
Omnipotence is not the ability to do anything. It is the ability to do anything which is possible.
What question?In the question, can one substitute the words, “will not,” for “cannot?”
Then who asked for creation?God won’t and can’t do anything if we haven’t asked him to do anything, whether or not he is omnipotent.
I thought I was simply answering the question.Omnipotence does not bear on
“Can God make a weight that he cannot lift”
If you want to change the topic by talking about something else then you ought to start a new post.
You made use of the proper punctuation to indicate questioning. You even claimed it a question.Can God make a weight that he cannot lift?
This question contains a mistake that, invariably, no-one notices, not even philosophers.
The mistake is the broken idea that something that cannot be lifted is a weight.
What question?
“Can God make a weight that he cannot lift” is not a question.
Very confusing!
However, I look forward to your revealing of the purpose of this post. May peace be with you.
The question isn’t a legitimate question. It is correctly posed as a question. It has a question mark, and the suggestive tone of a question. But because one of its key terms is nonsense then nothing is actually being asked.I am nearly out of guesses. In your initial post and topic title, you stated:
You made use of the proper punctuation to indicate questioning. You even claimed it a question.
But when asked: [Given the question, “Can God make a weight he cannot lift?”, can one substitute the phrase, “will not” for the word, “cannot?” You replied:
Very confusing!
However, I look forward to your revealing of the purpose of this post. May peace be with you.
That doesn’t mean that we can babble nonsense such as “can God make a weight that He cannot lift” and then sit back and suppose that there is an answer to our own nonsense.I think its simple if you are a true beleiver in God and Christ.God is everything and he can do whatever he wants its our job to sit back and let do what he wants and enjoy the ride
I said that omnipotence does not bear upon the idea of God making a weight that He cannot lift. Logic and grammar bears upon it, not God. You then proceeded to talk about God and omnipotence.I thought I was simply answering the question.
My apologies that I was unclear.
God can be subject to whatever rules he desires.
When Transubstantiation occurs, God is there.
God, that spoke everything into existence, subjects himself to physical properties of bread and wine.
These physical properties preclude the ability to lift anything.
And yet this God is still omnipotent. Is still keeping creation here with an act of will.
You may argue the question itself to be a logical inconsistancy if you wish. I’ll not argue against that.
But I believe it is more illogical to attempt to constrain God into the limitations of our logic.
We asked God to create a weight that he cannot lift. But we aren’t asking him to create anything. A weight that necessarily cannot be lifted is nonsense, and is not a weight.Then who asked for creation?
God’s power does not reside in the request.