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davidv
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This is a faulty question and has no valid answer. What Church teaching justifies prejudice against anyone?
This teaching is a direct contradiction to you claim.
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This teaching is a direct contradiction to you claim.
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MindOverMatter2
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What is prejudice?Why does christian belief justify prejudice against them?
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Soulewolf
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that’s all well and good. it still doesn’t disprove the fact that because the idea exists it has a negative impact on the mental well being of a homosexual, which is evident in the amount of homosexual suicides.This is a faulty question and has no valid answer. What Church teaching justifies prejudice against anyone?
This teaching is a direct contradiction to you claim.
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Soulewolf
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what is “what is prejudice”?What is prejudice?
you can try to redefine a word as much as you want. if you do, this conversation will fall apart. you know what i mean by prejudice.
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davidv
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What “idea”. Frankly, you are not making much sense.that’s all well and good. it still doesn’t disprove the fact that because the idea exists it has a negative impact on the mental well being of a homosexual, which is evident in the amount of homosexual suicides.
When people are deep in sin, one option is to dispair and dispair can lead to suicide. So it appears that you using another logical fallacy by assuming the correlation equals causation.
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Soulewolf
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the idea that homosexuality is sinful. what you stated is a self fulfilling prophecy. suicide is not the result of sin, it is the result of people saying it is sin.What “idea”. Frankly, you are not making much sense.
When people are deep in sin, one option is to dispair and dispair can lead to suicide. So it appears that you using another logical fallacy by assuming the correlation equals causation.
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MindOverMatter2
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No i don’t know what “you” mean.what is “what is prejudice”?
you can try to redefine a word as much as you want. if you do, this conversation will fall apart. you know what i mean by prejudice.
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MindOverMatter2
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Back up your premise.suicide is not the result of sin
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Soulewolf
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many people sin and do not commit suicide.Back up your premise.
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Soulewolf
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then look it up on dictionary.comNo i don’t know what “you” mean.
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davidv
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This does not back up you claim.many people sin and do not commit suicide.
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Soulewolf
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mmk how about this. Homosexuals that seek support in the form of groups or have supporting families are far less likely to commit suicide than those who are surrounded by christian morals. i mean the claim seems pretty self evident to me…This does not back up you claim.
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davidv
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Apparently the only one convinced is you.mmk how about this. Homosexuals that seek support in the form of groups or have supporting families are far less likely to commit suicide than those who are surrounded by christian morals. i mean the claim seems pretty self evident to me…
How does having support groups have anything to do with calling same sex intimacy?
Ilogical and irrational argument.
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Soulewolf
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wow you just took all of that wayyy out of context.Apparently the only one convinced is you.
How does having support groups have anything to do with calling same sex intimacy?
Ilogical and irrational argument.
No. The argument was put forward that homosexuality was wrong because it causes “harm to the organism”
Which i replied with “christian morality causes harm to the organism as well because it causes suicide rates among young homosexuals to be the highest of any other group, so christian morality is wrong”.
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davidv
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No, that was not the argument.wow you just took all of that wayyy out of context.
No. The argument was put forward that homosexuality was wrong because it causes “harm to the organism”
Which i replied with “christian morality causes harm to the organism as well because it causes suicide rates among young homosexuals to be the highest of any other group, so christian morality is wrong”.
The argument is that it is a sin because it is disorderrf use of one sexuality. It just so happens “harm” is one of the consequences of the disorder.
This another false claim based on false premises. You have not established the causal link from Church teaching to the suicides.
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Soulewolf
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you should really read the previous posts before barging into a discussion.No, that was not the argument.
The argument is that it is a sin because it is disorder use of one sexuality. It just so happens “harm” is one of the consequences of the disorder.
Another false claim. You have not established the causal link from Church teaching to the suicides.
but if you want a link between teaching and suicides, how about the fact that Exodus has a higher suicide rate than a success rate? o also how about the links i posted earlier. im not gonna go over the whole discussion again because you are feeling lazy.
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davidv
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Another false claim.you should really read the previous posts before barging into a discussion.
You should use valid and sound logical arguments.
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Soulewolf
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that claim is false. You should research your topics before coming up with random opinions with absolutely no bearing on the discussion at hand.Another false claim.
You should use valid and sound logical arguments.
actually i have a better idea.
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Leela
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Dick Cheney is as conservative as they come except on one particular issue. Dick happens to have a homosexual daughter. Dick doesn’t think of sex acts when he thinks of his daughter’s homosexuality as you seem to any more than any father tries to imagine such things about his daughter. Instead he thinks of the love that his daughter and her partner share…and his grandchild. It is not at all surprising to me that those who have such relationships with homosexuals are far less prejudice against homosexuals and quick to condemn than those who have never loved or befriended one.Apparently the only one convinced is you.
How does having support groups have anything to do with calling same sex intimacy?
Ilogical and irrational argument.
WWJD?
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Soulewolf
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Soulewolfe
*i could show you many ways in which Christianity works against the organism. *
How does the Christian view of homosexuality work against the organism, since the Christian view of homosexuality would discourage death from Aids?
Through 2007, more than 576,000 people with AIDS in the United States have died since the epidemic began. That’s 76,000 more than the number of Americans who died in WWII.
there you go. that IS the argument, and you have NO idea what you are talking about. of course the logic is invalid. it was his logic, not mine, and i used it in a different scenario to show how it was invalid. now if you want to start another side conversation, feel free, but dont randomly jump into conversations you know NOTHING about. its very rude…so if you’re so against aids why arent you a proponent of safe sex instead of an opponent of homosexuality?
The christian view of homosexuality has caused suicide rates in young homosexuals to be higher than any other group of people. Especially in places like exodus where the suicide rates are higher than the success rates.
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