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Thom18
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As others have already said- no, this is not ok. You shouldn’t be praying to non-Christian “prophets”. No good will come of it.
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Pat_Payne
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EVEN for people like them, we cannot discount God’s mercy and grace. Right until the exact instant that he succumbed to his self-inflicted wounds, Hitler could have said, with a sincere, perfectly-contrite heart, cooperating with one final desperate influx of grace on God’s part, “God forgive me, for I have offended you” and sought forgiveness and reconciliation for his manifold and horrendous sins. Do I think it happened? Given his outward dispositions, I wouldn’t think it likely, but neither will I deny the possibility.People like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Cromwell, Luther and other people whom are objectly terrible people are most certainly there.
Similarly, Stalin was lying for who knows how long paralyzed and completely helpless after his stroke. That left him a lot of time to ruminate on his life and perhaps seek God’s forgiveness for his great offenses against Him.
(God willing, someday to be Saint) Fulton Sheen once remarked that there will be three great surprises for those who get to heaven:
- That people they were sure would be there because of their outward virtues aren’t.
- That people they thought wouldn’t be because of their outward sins are.
- That they themselves are there.
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Cruciferi
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No it doesn’t. You’re just speculating.Scripture does say Judas is in hell
Once again, that’s a heap of speculation on your part. Only God knows.People like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Cromwell, Luther and other people whom are objectly terrible people are most certainly there.
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lapaeste
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Buddha did not precede Christ. Read Genesis and you will see Christ (2nd person of the Trinity) existed before the world was even created. Christ is the Alpha & Omega.
1 Peter 1:20 "He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. "
1 Peter 1:20 "He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. "
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Randolph
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Buddha trotted this earth before Christ Himself—fully human—did. Given that we are currently in the Advent season, I trust that I need not to explain any further.Buddha did not precede Christ. Read Genesis and you will see Christ (2nd person of the Trinity) existed before the world was even created. Christ is the Alpha & Omega.
1 Peter 1:20 "He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
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twf
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You’re not taking into account the possibility of death bed conversions.
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on_the_hill
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Catholics pray only to the Three-in-One God.
IMO, Buddhism is popular among people because in the U.S. it’s a non-organized, non-institutional religion that boils down to a sort of moral relativism. The American Buddhist has no obligations other than those one decides to define for oneself.
IMO, Buddhism is popular among people because in the U.S. it’s a non-organized, non-institutional religion that boils down to a sort of moral relativism. The American Buddhist has no obligations other than those one decides to define for oneself.
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rossum
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That applies to all Buddhists, not just American ones.The American Buddhist has no obligations other than those one decides to define for oneself.
You can take advice: “censured by the wise” and “praised by the wise”, but in the end you have to decide for yourself.[The Buddha said:] “Now, look you Kalamas, do not be led by reports, or tradition, or hearsay. Be not led by the authority of religious texts, nor by mere logic or inference, nor by considering appearances, nor by the delight in speculative opinions, nor by seeming possibilities, nor by the idea ‘this is our teacher’. Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are bad; these things are blameable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,’ abandon them. … Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are good; these things are not blameable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,’ enter on and abide in them.” (emphases added)
– Kalama sutta, Anguttara Nikaya, 3.65
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Randolph
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I grew up in a devout catholic family in a predominantly Buddhist country. Buddhism is a pagan religion with many different branches (temples)—similar to those of Protestant Churches today. Each branch has its own deities and its own tradition and beliefs. It is essentially an atheistic religion—although Buddha did make some reference to some form of divinity. When asked if he was a god or a prophet, Buddha simply denied it and said: “I am awake.” In my opinion, Buddhism is more of a school of philosophy than a religion. It was man-made and was created in the image of man. It provides practical advices and guidances to people to deal with their problems and suffering. Upon seeing actual results in helping people to solve/deal with their problems, it gained the respect and admiration of the people. Their emphases on being compassionate, kind and gentle are quite admirable and desirable. These are among many reasons that it has lasted for more than 2,500 years and continues to be so into the future.Catholics pray only to the Three-in-One Gojd.
IMO, Buddhism is popular among people because in the U.S . it’s a non-organized, non-institutional religion that boils down to a sort of moral relativism. The American Buddhist has no obligations other than those one decides to define for oneself.
You are correct about moral relativism. They don’t have a concept of sins and/or evil, or heaven/hell, as the Catholic Church does. Karma is their central point for rewards/punishments. It has its roots in Hinduism.
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Aquinas11
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yes and that we’ve all lived so many rebirths that everyone you come across was your mother in a former life…just lunacy… STAY AWAYNo. His teachings are evil. . . . In particular, the diabolical idea of reincarnation which he is responsible for spreading has misled countless people into thinking that there is no urgent need to seek salvation in this life.
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Justpassingthru
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First “contribution” reply in the Catholic Forums… <<big, big breath… whoooooooo…>>
Okay. Reading over as many responses to the thread-header related to worshipping Buddha… My first gut felt response is, from what I know of Buddha’s teachings, that the original Buddha himself would never encourage anyone to “worship” him. The original Buddha advanced a way, a path; the human path is one of only suffering, and the path of the Buddha seeks to free oneself, following the original pathbreaker’s way, from his/her own human suffering.
What does that particular teaching have to do with Jesus Christ and Christianity?
In searching an answer, immediately comes to mind that for Jesus to realize and become the divine Savior to humanity He is, He had to undergo the greatest suffering one could endure; that He did so freely – suffered and died – for the salvation of mankind is beyond dispute.
As to the worship of “idols” and iconoclasm, it is safe to say both Buddha and Jesus did not advocate for the worship of objects and images made of their imagined likeness. To have or carry a representation of Jesus Christ or Buddha is not and ought not to be confused or confounded with the worship of that object itself; to believe that the divine essence in some way is transferred to the object through the power of one’s belief in “it” is in actuality a delusion of one’s belief in their own power of belief to will the divine into that object one is holding within their possession. Somewhat muddled thinking, don’t you think?
Okay. Reading over as many responses to the thread-header related to worshipping Buddha… My first gut felt response is, from what I know of Buddha’s teachings, that the original Buddha himself would never encourage anyone to “worship” him. The original Buddha advanced a way, a path; the human path is one of only suffering, and the path of the Buddha seeks to free oneself, following the original pathbreaker’s way, from his/her own human suffering.
What does that particular teaching have to do with Jesus Christ and Christianity?
In searching an answer, immediately comes to mind that for Jesus to realize and become the divine Savior to humanity He is, He had to undergo the greatest suffering one could endure; that He did so freely – suffered and died – for the salvation of mankind is beyond dispute.
As to the worship of “idols” and iconoclasm, it is safe to say both Buddha and Jesus did not advocate for the worship of objects and images made of their imagined likeness. To have or carry a representation of Jesus Christ or Buddha is not and ought not to be confused or confounded with the worship of that object itself; to believe that the divine essence in some way is transferred to the object through the power of one’s belief in “it” is in actuality a delusion of one’s belief in their own power of belief to will the divine into that object one is holding within their possession. Somewhat muddled thinking, don’t you think?
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tomo_pomo
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Thank you, I am having a hard time finding out what is what. Is Anguttara Nikaya name of the book?Abhisanda sutta , Anguttara Nikaya 8:39
From what year is it?
I am trying to find out first mention of five precepts, what year and was it written in a special book or oral tradition.
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Searching1
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Now I know how to reach that post length requirement with an abrupt answer lol
BTW the answer is a resounding “NO” @Mitch2991
BTW the answer is a resounding “NO” @Mitch2991
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Babaganoush
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Actually I think the Catholic Church makes clear that Judas is in hell. I think it is mentioned at some time throughout the year in the liturgy. It might be on Good Friday. But I might be wrong. I have been wrong once, once.
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Wm777
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You can’t worship Buddah because worship is due only to God alone, but you can praise anyone you like, if you think they are great at something… It doesn’t mean you worship or pray to them - maybe you just want to pay them a compliment… That doesnt mean you see the person as the Almighty Creator of the Universe… In Catholicism, we sing the praises of Saints all the time for their heroic virtues… It’s a form a doulia, not Latria…
As for praying to Buddah, while we do pray to Saints, I’d say you’re mixing apples and oranges, as Buddhism and Catholicism are completely different…
Buddhists can often be very fun, happy and kind people, and, yes, I admire them greatly… In their meditative methods, they have found ways of doing things that are completely astounding… But while Buddhism calls itself a religion, I dont think Buddhism is a religion so much as a sort of philosophy…
Buddhism is inherently atheistic, and the meditative practices ultimately results in “many buddhas”, where the individual’s own soul finds itself as “God” (or Buddah)… On the other hand, in Christianity, you have a dichotomy between God and man, where man is not God, but God is infinitely greater than man…
Additionally, Buddhist meditative practices compared to Catholic prayer and meditation are completely different… To make matters more complex, Buddhist sects practice their meditation differently - a little like the way Catholics and Protestants and Non-Denominationals get along…
The basic idea in Buddhism is to sit in one position (called zazen), and then breathe… That’s basically it… The mind tends to go on a journey, but the goal of being a Buddah is something like - while the mind is journeying - one’s body returns to the sitting in the correct zazen position and breathing correctly… It’s thus all a question of form…
So - if you were to pray to Buddah in the Catholic sense - it wouldn’t really be doing Buddhism… I will say this, though… There is a sort of strange logic to Buddhism, so some of the meditative practices do leave you feeling good, and - again - they can be a joyful people… If you watch videos of the Dhali Lama, the man has a big beautiful laugh, and a wonderful sense of humor… I think this is because of the way maintaining the form tends to embrace existence, athough it’s all very contrary - which is what causes the humor…
When we pray to Jesus, or receive Him in the sacraments, always call Jesus by His God Given Name… You could thank Jesus for giving you Buddhist friends, but it’s important to bear in mind that Jesus is God, and - while you can engage with other people of all walks - you cannot cross certain boundaries (particularly by way of attributing Divinity to anyone but the Trinity)… in Catholic prayer - the Communion of the Saints (doulia) and the Sacraments (Latria) are uniquely suited to responding to certain petitions, devotions and sacrifices according to prescribed rules and commandments… you should follow these to be a good Catholic…
As for praying to Buddah, while we do pray to Saints, I’d say you’re mixing apples and oranges, as Buddhism and Catholicism are completely different…
Buddhists can often be very fun, happy and kind people, and, yes, I admire them greatly… In their meditative methods, they have found ways of doing things that are completely astounding… But while Buddhism calls itself a religion, I dont think Buddhism is a religion so much as a sort of philosophy…
Buddhism is inherently atheistic, and the meditative practices ultimately results in “many buddhas”, where the individual’s own soul finds itself as “God” (or Buddah)… On the other hand, in Christianity, you have a dichotomy between God and man, where man is not God, but God is infinitely greater than man…
Additionally, Buddhist meditative practices compared to Catholic prayer and meditation are completely different… To make matters more complex, Buddhist sects practice their meditation differently - a little like the way Catholics and Protestants and Non-Denominationals get along…
The basic idea in Buddhism is to sit in one position (called zazen), and then breathe… That’s basically it… The mind tends to go on a journey, but the goal of being a Buddah is something like - while the mind is journeying - one’s body returns to the sitting in the correct zazen position and breathing correctly… It’s thus all a question of form…
So - if you were to pray to Buddah in the Catholic sense - it wouldn’t really be doing Buddhism… I will say this, though… There is a sort of strange logic to Buddhism, so some of the meditative practices do leave you feeling good, and - again - they can be a joyful people… If you watch videos of the Dhali Lama, the man has a big beautiful laugh, and a wonderful sense of humor… I think this is because of the way maintaining the form tends to embrace existence, athough it’s all very contrary - which is what causes the humor…
When we pray to Jesus, or receive Him in the sacraments, always call Jesus by His God Given Name… You could thank Jesus for giving you Buddhist friends, but it’s important to bear in mind that Jesus is God, and - while you can engage with other people of all walks - you cannot cross certain boundaries (particularly by way of attributing Divinity to anyone but the Trinity)… in Catholic prayer - the Communion of the Saints (doulia) and the Sacraments (Latria) are uniquely suited to responding to certain petitions, devotions and sacrifices according to prescribed rules and commandments… you should follow these to be a good Catholic…
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Wm777
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Contrary in the sense of different, yes, but I wouldnt say anti-Christian… In other words, Buddhists aren’t hostile towards Catholics, like perhaps some Muslims have been towards us throughout history and even in recent times…Buddhism is contrary to the Catholic faith
I’ve a book here by one Buddhist teacher who explains he isn’t out to annihilate Christianity in explaining Buddhism to Christians… He understands the fundamental differences between the faiths, but he says nothing against us, as if to try to suppress or censor Christianity at all…
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