Can I Be Friends With A White Witch?

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catharina said:
Haven’t a clue what you’re saying.
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The socalled seer up in New York by the name of Veronica Lueken. She is now deceased but there were so many false claims that the Church could not possibly approve the apparitions. Therefore she was probably dabbling in the occult herself and calling it Catholic. Would you trust your children with someone like that?
 
goofyjim said:
The socalled seer up in New York by the name of Veronica Lueken. She is now deceased but there were so many false claims that the Church could not possibly approve the apparitions. Therefore she was probably dabbling in the occult herself and calling it Catholic. Would you trust your children with someone like that?
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duuuuuuuhhhhh. Would I become friends with people who claimed to be visionary mystics who had NO approval from the Church. Please, get a grip. You’re swimming in pool of pollution.
 
catharina said:
duuuuuuuhhhhh. Would I become friends with people who claimed to be visionary mystics who had NO approval from the Church. Please, get a grip. You’re swimming in pool of pollution.
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And your increasing nmae calling is just sewing out hatred. You can certainly respond in a much kinder mode. The example I was trying to set forth was that you might still trust the visionary mystic because they were at least Catholic. I would be friends with them but be skeptical of their visions until the Church did its proper investigation. I will be friends with whoever earns my trust. Yes it has to be earned but noone is disqualified right from the get go simply because a catechetical directive.
 
to the OP - you can stay acquaintances, but DO NOT stay friends and definitely not more than friends.

many, many bad things can happen. don’t take any chances. pray for her and for you to get the strength needed to do so. unfortunately you’re already in deeper than you even want to be. have no fear, God is here!
 
goofyjim said:
And your increasing nmae calling is just sewing out hatred. You can certainly respond in a much kinder mode. The example I was trying to set forth was that you might still trust the visionary mystic because they were at least Catholic. I would be friends with them but be skeptical of their visions until the Church did its proper investigation. I will be friends with whoever earns my trust. Yes it has to be earned but noone is disqualified right from the get go simply because a catechetical directive.
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Name-calling? Fine goofyjim (that’s your name) - You choose to do whatever you want. I’m answering the OP. Should she be friends with a witch? NO. Is it OK for you? NO.
 
catharina said:
Name-calling? Fine goofyjim (that’s your name) - You choose to do whatever you want. I’m answering the OP. Should she be friends with a witch. NO. Is it OK for you? NO.
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You are permitted to give any advice to the OP. But you can’t tell me it isn’t ok to be friends with someone. Fortunately you are not my judge. It is an individual choice. For me it is ok.
 
I’m just not sure it is safe to deal with the occult or someone involved with the occult. Maybe the op could contact Moira Noonan and ask her?

An Exorcist Tells His Story

amazon.com/Exorcist-Tells-His-Story/dp/0898707102

opened my eyes the insidious nature of evil. I think it is prideful to say that we will not be influenced or oppressed by devils.

Perhaps the op should take the question to her spiritual director or confessor.

I don’t think it’s a matter of not associating with sinners (otherwise, we’d all be hermits 😉 ), but just being prudent.
 
goofyjim said:
You are permitted to give any advice to the OP. But you can’t tell me it isn’t ok to be friends with someone. Fortunately you are not my judge. It is an individual choice. For me it is ok.
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Yeah - I’m permitted … and I’m obliged to support Church Teaching. I learned this teaching in the early 1950s in a Catholic grammar school, then again in a Catholic high school, then again in a Catholic university, then again in a Catholic grdauate program of Theology. So I can tell you what the CHURCH teaches; and as always, YOU’RE free to do as you choose.
 
catharina said:
Yeah - I’m permitted … and I’m obliged to support Church Teaching. I learned this teaching in the early 1950s in a Catholic grammar school, then again in a Catholic high school, then again in a Catholic university, then again in a Catholic grdauate program of Theology. So I can tell you what the CHURCH teaches; and as always, YOU’RE free to do as you choose.
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And I won’t go to hell for it.😃
 
goofyjim said:
And I won’t go to hell for it.😃
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I can’t imagine why you would be sure of that - since one thing leads to another. Witchcraft leads away from God. Witches as friends? PROBLEMATICAL. God is not mocked.
 
goofyjim said:
The socalled seer up in New York by the name of Veronica Lueken. She is now deceased but there were so many false claims that the Church could not possibly approve the apparitions. Therefore she was probably dabbling in the occult herself and calling it Catholic. Would you trust your children with someone like that?
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Heavens, no. You need to ask? Would you?
 
catharina said:
I can’t imagine why you would be sure of that - since one thing leads to another. Witchcraft leads away from God. Witches as friends? PROBLEMATICAL. God is not mocked.
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Goodbye. I can have anyone as friends. They don’t draw me away from God. It is not problematical for me to have friends that you may not agree with or even the Church. I do not dabble in witchcraft by having a friend who does. Like I said before I just don’t prefer to be in some elite clique. If we are to evangelize it means making friends first and not writing off people as though they are beyond hope.
 
Hi Leonie. I agree competely with being prudent. God made us thinking beings. I believe if we don’t use our minds to question, while asking God for faith, we are misusing what God has given us, but all should be approached with caution.🙂
 
Abira said:
Hi,

Me and my friends were out having dinner a few weeks ago and for some reason (Ihadn’t even thought it before) I blurted out and asked my friend if she was into witchcraft!

Then she said that she was heavily into witchcraft…but not black magic… and that it had all started in secondary school.
She went on to tell me about some spell which had won her a friend back involving planting an onion in the back garden lol.

Well I’ve resolved that I shouldn’t encourage it, although I am naturally curious when someone is different, but I’m not sure I’d like to have her in my house.

She’s a good person and we are friends but I’m a little bit unsure how seriously I should take the witchcraft. She assures me she’d never do bad magic as that would come back three times on her (kinda like karma) but I know that she reads spells most nights and does tarot cards and has dabbled in oija boards etc.

Actually now I see it in black and white it looks all so silly! But let me know what you think as it has been on my mind for a few weeks now.

Take care, S
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Abira, hi again. I checked your profile and see that your religion is undefined. Since this is a Catholic site, I’m answering you as a Catholic. I think maybe you’ve already answered yourself though since you say you’re not sure you’d like to have the witch-woman in your house. VERY WISE - since opening our homes is a good sign of real friendship. As a Catholic, I can say NO! to being friends with anyone who has any involvement with any kind of witchcraft. She’s into it heavily. Your acquaintance sounds VERY involved in it since she’s been doing it since secondary school. Also, what you mention: ouija boards, tarot cards … Very Bad News. I’ll remember to pray for you (and for her) but you’re very wise to ask if you should be friends with someone who has her interests in the occult.
 
goofyjim said:
Goodbye. I can have anyone as friends. They don’t draw me away from God. It is not problematical for me to have friends that you may not agree with or even the Church.
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it is naive to think that your friends cannot influence you. are you sure you’re strong enough in your faith not to be influenced? this is key.
goofyjim said:
I do not dabble in witchcraft by having a friend who does. Like I said before I just don’t prefer to be in some elite clique. If we are to evangelize it means making friends first and not writing off people as though they are beyond hope.
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i suggest you look into spiritual warfare. demons are real. influences and associations are real. if something goes wrong with your relationship with your friend, they can “dabble” on your behalf. how do you know they are not “dabbling” on your behalf right now? you don’t. are you ready to be attacked by the occult in order to save a soul? not everyone is called to do this, that is why we advise to take caution, and unless you are adequately prepared, to avoid such evil.

this stuff is real. as Catholics, we believe in the power of holy water, the name of Jesus, angels, demons, blessed objects, relics, prayers, exorcisms, etc. to deny any of these is to deny your Catholic faith. it isn’t just a movie or fiction, it is real folks, so take it seriously and be on guard.

"Whatever the less discerning theologians may say, the devil, as far as Christian belief is concerned, is a puzzling but real, personal and not merely symbolical presence." -B16

"He who does not believe in the devil does not believe in the Gospel." -JP2

**“When I am asked how many demons there are, I answer with the words that the demon himself spoke through a demonic: ‘We are so many that, if we were visible, we would darken the sun.”
**
google.com/search?q=catholic+spiritual+warfare
 
If this woman has been dabbling in witchcraft since the second grade, I’d run not walk away. I hope you use holy water daily.
 
Obviously it’s a risk to be friends with a witch, but for my part, I’d trust in Psalm 23.
 
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