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hilde_the_dog
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I believe when you look into some of the eastern churches do both baptism and confirmation at the same time.
How many people rely on godparents to really fulfill their role - seriously. I would not trust most to understand and teach and support the catholic church and its children.
How many people rely on godparents to really fulfill their role - seriously. I would not trust most to understand and teach and support the catholic church and its children.
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ConstantineTG
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In the past, infant confirmation was common in the Latin Rite. It has changed, but in the Eastern Rites they do preserve that tradition to this day. In fact, babies also receive their First Communion during Baptism.
Baptism, Confirmation and the Eucharist are all Sacraments of Initiation. Which means you receive them upon entering the Church. For adults its done that way, for infants it has varied. In the Latin Church it is now preferred that for one to understand what Confirmation and Communion meant before receiving it, thus its prescribed that only kids of a certain age are to receive it under normal circumstances. However, in emergency situations, a priest can still confer Emergency Confirmation on a child below the prescribed age of the diocese.
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mmsiciliana
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In a Question and Answer book written by a priest about Catholicism (the book is at work; I’m at home) this question was asked and he replied that you can write the bishop of your diocese and ask permission from the bishop to have the godparent(s) changed.
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Phemie
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I don’t think so, our bishop made it clear to our pastor that nothing can be changed about baptism record – and that was in response to “can the name of the father be changed when the mother has found out that he’s not really the father?”
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mmsiciliana
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The name of the father can most certainly be changed if there is a court order doing so.
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Phemie
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In this case there was no court order, just a very embarrassed young woman.
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mmsiciliana
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Exactly. A Baptismal certificate is a legal document. We have changed the names in our registers, but only with a court order and we attach a copy of the order to the page. When a couple is married, the husband is the legal father of the baby, even if another man is the real physical father of the baby. In the case of an unmarried couple, we always require that a copy of the legal birth certificate be given to us. We don’t just take the mom’s word that “John Smith” is the father without John Smith’s name being on the legal birth certificate.
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phoenixrrt62
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Probably not a bad idea.see, thats why i like our little tradition in the Philippines of having a horde of godparents
out of the one dozen godfathers and one dozen godmothers, you’re bound to get one good one
Someone I know has a godparent for her middle child that she is not really happy with, and I do know on occasion they joke about the one “goofy” godparent…but, oh, well, what can you do? They have relatives as godparents…I suppose that’s a common practice?
They are religious, but not terribly so, they do go to church, are active in the church-they are members of the vestry, etc, but they aren’t ‘holy rollers’ or anything, they are pretty liberal, so they aren’t too terribly distressed about it.
They just pretty much bypass the “goofy” god parent and the child (who is now in college) pretty much takes it in stride.
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Phemie
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In our case, due to the laws in effect in our province at the time, unless the parents took the step to register their child, the baptizing parish was responsible for submitting the Return of Birth to Vital Statistics. The father’s name in our register IS on the birth certificate because that’s the name WE submitted to Vital Statistics. Such is the case for 99% of children baptized in our parish up to last October. It was only later that DNA tests proved he wasn’t the father.
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ConstantineTG
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Sometimes I wonder, is the truth of the matter is that most godparents don’t fulfill their role faithfully anyway? At least in my experience, it is that way. Sad, but such is the harsh reality of life.
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