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First of all it was not Ellen G. White that was preaching that. She and many thousans of people herd William miller preaching and studied the scriptures for their self and then found t to be true. They were mistaken in the event not the date. This is why is say we nned to study things for your self. They were disappointed because they relied on a common interpretation of the time that the earth was the sanctuary of God. Jesus moves from the holy to the most holly lace in heaven. If they had understand what the sanctuary ment they would have save them self a lot of grief but at the same time many would have procrastinated as well. But because they did not know that importand fact men and women cuased a world movement. It was not just in the united started that this happen, in deferent parts of the earth, wholly apart from Miller, there were other preachers who came to the same conclusions. And they never had heard miller message. In 1844 what the year that the world change for ever. If you think that the devil did not know about that prophecy and prepared for it, think again.
In 1844 was thebeginning of data communication. Tha was when Morse made the first transmetion over a wire from Washington to Baltimore with the message: “What hath God wrought!” God prepaird the way for the message to go out. Today the Adventist church has the worlds biggest telecommunication network I the world when you add them all up. Last I check.
What else happen in that year? Have you heard of the mormons: they rejact Jesus, the first scatch of charls darwin’s book came out, moderns spiritualism (the fox sisters) and the list goes on and on. There is only one church that came preaching and believing all that the bible says.
The ancient Russian name of this people was Strigolniks. Dr. Murdock gives the following account of them:
"It is common to date the origin of sectarians in the Russian church, about the middle of the seventeenth century in the time of the patriarch Nikon. But according to the Russian annals, there existed schismatics in the Russian church two hundred years before the days of Nikon; and the disturbances which took place in his time, only proved the means of augmenting their numbers, and of bringing them forward into public view. The earliest of these schismatics first appeared in Novogorod, early in the fifteenth century, under the name of Strigolniks.
“A Jew named Horie preached a mixture of Judaism and Christianity; and proselyted two priests, Denis and Alexie, who gained a vast number of followers. This sect was so numerous, that a national council was called, towards the close of the fifteenth century, to oppose it. Soon afterwards, one Karp, an excommunicated deacon, joined the Strigolniks; and accused the higher clergy of selling the office of priesthood, and of so far corrupting the church, that the Holy Ghost was withdrawn from it. He was a very successful propagator of this sect.”
It is very customary with historians to speak of Sabbath-keeping Christians in one of the following ways: 1. To name their observance of the seventh day distinctly, but to represent them as turning from Christ to Moses and the ceremonial law; or, 2. To speak of their Sabbatarian principles in so vague a manner that the reader will not be likely to suspect them of being Sabbath-keepers. Pinkerton speaks of these Russian Sabbath-keepers after the first of these methods; Murdock, after the second. It is plain that Murdock did not regard these people as rejecting Christ, and it is certain from Pinkerton that the two writers are speaking of the same people.
What was the origin of these Russian Sabbath-keepers? Certainly it was not from the Reformation of the sixteenth century; for they were in existence at least one century before that event. We have seen that the Waldenses, during the Dark Ages, were dispersed through many of the countries of Europe. And so also were the people called Cathari, if, indeed, the two were not one people. In particular, we note the fact that they were scattered through Poland, Lithuania, Sclavonia, Bulgaria, Livonia, Albania, and Sarmatia
See the twenty-first chapter of this work
Murdock’s Mosheim, book iv. cent. xvii. sect. 2, part i. chap. ii. note 12
Mr. Utter makes the following statement respecting Sabbath-keepers in Germany and in Holland:
“Early in the sixteenth century there are traces of Sabbath-keepers in Germany. The Old Dutch Martyrology gives an account of a Baptist minister named Stephen Benedict, somewhat famous for baptizing during a severe persecution in Holland, who is supposed by good authorities to have kept the seventh day as the Sabbath. One of the persons baptized by him was Barbary von Thiers, wife of Hans Borzen, who was executed on the 16th of September, 1529. At her trial she declared her rejection of the idolatrous sacrament of the priest, and also the Mass.”
Manual of the Seventh-day Baptists, p. 16.
"The prince received his first religious impressions under his chaplain, Alexius, who was a Lutheran. On his removal he chose Francis Davidis to succeed him, and by him was further informed of the principles of the Reformation. Davidis was a native of that extremely populous and well-fortified town which is called Coloswar by the natives, Clausenberg by the Germans, and by others, Claudiopolis. He was a man of learning, address, and piety, and reasoned in this part of his life more justly on the principles of the Reformation than many of his contemporaries. In 1563 his highness invited several learned foreigners to come into Transylvania for the purpose of helping forward the Reformation.
Eccl. Researches, chap. xvi. p. 630
Here is a site to link to satisfy you question: sundaylaw.net/books/other/andrews/hos/hos24.htm#3
May God bless you and keep you.
I hot you have notice that I have not used any of Ellen White writings in any of my post.
First of all it was not Ellen G. White that was preaching that. She and many thousans of people herd William miller preaching and studied the scriptures for their self and then found t to be true. They were mistaken in the event not the date. This is why is say we nned to study things for your self. They were disappointed because they relied on a common interpretation of the time that the earth was the sanctuary of God. Jesus moves from the holy to the most holly lace in heaven. If they had understand what the sanctuary ment they would have save them self a lot of grief but at the same time many would have procrastinated as well. But because they did not know that importand fact men and women cuased a world movement. It was not just in the united started that this happen, in deferent parts of the earth, wholly apart from Miller, there were other preachers who came to the same conclusions. And they never had heard miller message. In 1844 what the year that the world change for ever. If you think that the devil did not know about that prophecy and prepared for it, think again.
In 1844 was thebeginning of data communication. Tha was when Morse made the first transmetion over a wire from Washington to Baltimore with the message: “What hath God wrought!” God prepaird the way for the message to go out. Today the Adventist church has the worlds biggest telecommunication network I the world when you add them all up. Last I check.
What else happen in that year? Have you heard of the mormons: they rejact Jesus, the first scatch of charls darwin’s book came out, moderns spiritualism (the fox sisters) and the list goes on and on. There is only one church that came preaching and believing all that the bible says.
The Inept God is the one you serve. Your God is the one that got it wrong and is still correcting, every now and then a new Catechism comes out saying something deferent. My God created one Bible and never had to change anything in it. You are the one that think you has the power to do that.
Well if you need evidence I can help you with that too:
The ancient Russian name of this people was Strigolniks. Dr. Murdock gives the following account of them:
"It is common to date the origin of sectarians in the Russian church, about the middle of the seventeenth century in the time of the patriarch Nikon. But according to the Russian annals, there existed schismatics in the Russian church two hundred years before the days of Nikon; and the disturbances which took place in his time, only proved the means of augmenting their numbers, and of bringing them forward into public view. The earliest of these schismatics first appeared in Novogorod, early in the fifteenth century, under the name of Strigolniks.
“A Jew named Horie preached a mixture of Judaism and Christianity; and proselyted two priests, Denis and Alexie, who gained a vast number of followers. This sect was so numerous, that a national council was called, towards the close of the fifteenth century, to oppose it. Soon afterwards, one Karp, an excommunicated deacon, joined the Strigolniks; and accused the higher clergy of selling the office of priesthood, and of so far corrupting the church, that the Holy Ghost was withdrawn from it. He was a very successful propagator of this sect.”
It is very customary with historians to speak of Sabbath-keeping Christians in one of the following ways: 1. To name their observance of the seventh day distinctly, but to represent them as turning from Christ to Moses and the ceremonial law; or, 2. To speak of their Sabbatarian principles in so vague a manner that the reader will not be likely to suspect them of being Sabbath-keepers. Pinkerton speaks of these Russian Sabbath-keepers after the first of these methods; Murdock, after the second. It is plain that Murdock did not regard these people as rejecting Christ, and it is certain from Pinkerton that the two writers are speaking of the same people.
What was the origin of these Russian Sabbath-keepers? Certainly it was not from the Reformation of the sixteenth century; for they were in existence at least one century before that event. We have seen that the Waldenses, during the Dark Ages, were dispersed through many of the countries of Europe. And so also were the people called Cathari, if, indeed, the two were not one people. In particular, we note the fact that they were scattered through Poland, Lithuania, Sclavonia, Bulgaria, Livonia, Albania, and Sarmatia
See the twenty-first chapter of this work
Murdock’s Mosheim, book iv. cent. xvii. sect. 2, part i. chap. ii. note 12
Mr. Utter makes the following statement respecting Sabbath-keepers in Germany and in Holland:
“Early in the sixteenth century there are traces of Sabbath-keepers in Germany. The Old Dutch Martyrology gives an account of a Baptist minister named Stephen Benedict, somewhat famous for baptizing during a severe persecution in Holland, who is supposed by good authorities to have kept the seventh day as the Sabbath. One of the persons baptized by him was Barbary von Thiers, wife of Hans Borzen, who was executed on the 16th of September, 1529. At her trial she declared her rejection of the idolatrous sacrament of the priest, and also the Mass.”
Manual of the Seventh-day Baptists, p. 16.
"The prince received his first religious impressions under his chaplain, Alexius, who was a Lutheran. On his removal he chose Francis Davidis to succeed him, and by him was further informed of the principles of the Reformation. Davidis was a native of that extremely populous and well-fortified town which is called Coloswar by the natives, Clausenberg by the Germans, and by others, Claudiopolis. He was a man of learning, address, and piety, and reasoned in this part of his life more justly on the principles of the Reformation than many of his contemporaries. In 1563 his highness invited several learned foreigners to come into Transylvania for the purpose of helping forward the Reformation.
Eccl. Researches, chap. xvi. p. 630
Here is a site to link to satisfy you question: sundaylaw.net/books/other/andrews/hos/hos24.htm#3
May God bless you and keep you.
