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cutecathchic said:
no…but I think it can be justified to protect yourself from some nutcase :clapping:
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no…but I think it can be justified to protect yourself from some nutcase :clapping:
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jimmy
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I normally just put in my initials for my name and just the numbers for my address. I am not lying, but I am purposely being very vague.
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ktm
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Give me a break. You are going to equate not giving full information to a perfect stranger with committing tax fraud?
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ktm
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This is the worst possible advice you could give to Hermione, who has been very public about her bouts with scrupulosity. She needs to develop confidence in her own ability to make moral decisions, not run to her priest every time she has a question about an extremely minor moral issue.
Lying in a Yahoo application doesn’t even come close to lying under oath, committing tax fraud, committing the sin of calumny, etc.
The last time I confessed something of similar magnitude to my priest he told me I am suffering from PRIDE, one of the roots of scrupulosity. Being prideful and thinking you can be perfect is a far greater sin than giving incomplete or inaccurate information on, OF ALL THINGS, a stupid Yahoo account application.
People, get real. We are not talking about GRAVE MATTER here.
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ktm
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cutecathchic said:
No, but three rights make a left.
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Catholic_Dude
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and after 4 you end up in the same place you started!!
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Hermione
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I deleted my Yahoo! account… *sigh
One comment I want to make is that I don’t think pride is the root of scrupulosity (although I acknowledge that I am more proud than I should be).
I think the root of scrupulosity is obsessive compulsive disorder. It runs in my family, and I had problems with it before I became a Catholic, only back then it manifested itself as checking windows, thermostat, cleaning and arranging items, checking and rechecking homework etc.
The obsessions/compulsions can be uncontrollable and extremely debilitating. If I could get rid of this, I would do so in a heartbeat.
One comment I want to make is that I don’t think pride is the root of scrupulosity (although I acknowledge that I am more proud than I should be).
I think the root of scrupulosity is obsessive compulsive disorder. It runs in my family, and I had problems with it before I became a Catholic, only back then it manifested itself as checking windows, thermostat, cleaning and arranging items, checking and rechecking homework etc.
The obsessions/compulsions can be uncontrollable and extremely debilitating. If I could get rid of this, I would do so in a heartbeat.
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Zooey
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I still stand by my decision to use the cat’s personal ID. And I feel that we have to protect ourselves.
As I said earlier in this thread, I don’t think of this as lying. It is a scary world that we live in. We need to take all the reasonable precautions that we can to stay safe…
Of course, some people might think that it is
“unreasonable” for a :ehh: cat to have her own email.
As I said earlier in this thread, I don’t think of this as lying. It is a scary world that we live in. We need to take all the reasonable precautions that we can to stay safe…
Of course, some people might think that it is
“unreasonable” for a :ehh: cat to have her own email.
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ktm
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See my reply to your “Is making fun of Islam a sin” thread.
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philipbenedict
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I think the answer is given in the first three words of the thread title. Can I lie?
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chevalier
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I would say depends on the reasons why you do that, but it’s problematic if they include warnings like by requesting an account you attest that your information is accurate etc etc. However, as a lawyer (third year law student, to be precise), I am hugely skeptical towards contracts of adhesion, especially in filling out forms on the net - like they tell you you are effectively sigining a contract by clicking here and there, let alone the fact that sometimes they force obligations on you or act as if they had authority over you.
What matters is why you don’t want to provide true information, why the asker needs the information and what he’s going to do with it, and why you need his service. After all, if you don’t get the account, you don’t have to give any data.
Why they want personal data when you create an e-mail account is most probably security. If you don’t intend to use the account for nefarious purposes, they don’t have to fear anything from you, nor to protect anyone from you. However, they don’t use the data for any wrong purpose themselves - at least not the big companies. And they don’t give it away, so spammers get your e-mail but not your home address.
After all, it’s not like a human being ever looks on it. They have millions of accounts processed automatically, so why would anyone care to single you out and seek out data which belongs specifically to you?
Potential spammers as a rule offer crappy services, so you don’t lose anything by staying away from their sites.
Also, you can’t achieve total anonimity on the internet. No matter your data, they can always record your IP, hostmask, ISP data, system info, whatever. If someone’s bent on identifying you, giving or withholding your home address doesn’t make any difference.
What matters is why you don’t want to provide true information, why the asker needs the information and what he’s going to do with it, and why you need his service. After all, if you don’t get the account, you don’t have to give any data.
Why they want personal data when you create an e-mail account is most probably security. If you don’t intend to use the account for nefarious purposes, they don’t have to fear anything from you, nor to protect anyone from you. However, they don’t use the data for any wrong purpose themselves - at least not the big companies. And they don’t give it away, so spammers get your e-mail but not your home address.
After all, it’s not like a human being ever looks on it. They have millions of accounts processed automatically, so why would anyone care to single you out and seek out data which belongs specifically to you?
Potential spammers as a rule offer crappy services, so you don’t lose anything by staying away from their sites.
Also, you can’t achieve total anonimity on the internet. No matter your data, they can always record your IP, hostmask, ISP data, system info, whatever. If someone’s bent on identifying you, giving or withholding your home address doesn’t make any difference.
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