How would I be rejecting the Church by applying aspects of Judaism? Did the Church ever say that dabbing in Judaism is sinful? If we agree that they are God’s chosen people, and that they will be saved, sounds worthwhile to emulate some of their practices such as eating kosher?
You have gone through this topic in other threads you started when you were even specific about Church teachings you did not think were correct but you preferred what Judasim taught instead.
Again, no, that’s not a reasonable angle, if you’re doing it because you want to approach salvation through observances of the Mosaic law. Paul’s really clear on that point in his letters.
You might be interested in these folks. jewsforjesus.org/about-jews-for-jesus/who-we-are/statementoffaith
I let the differences between Catholicism and Judaism slide… I make notes of the differences, and from the right angle, sometimes the differences disappear; Judaism can be 100% correct at the same time Catholicism is 100% correct. Different paths, yes, but the same destination.
Hmm. Judaism says “we await the Messiah”, and Catholicism says “Jesus is the Messiah.” Judaism says “it is necessary to obey the prescriptions of the Mosaic covenant” and Catholicism says “Gentiles are not required to obey the prescriptions of the Mosaic covenant”. How can these differences slide by?
from some angles? sure. That doesn’t mean that perception – from any arbitrary angle – is accurate and comprehensive. After all, from some angles, the Washington Monument looks like a flat rectangle or a flat square; does that mean that it isn’t an obelisk? Of course not: from some angles, we can mis-perceive the truth.
So, Judaism can be 100% correct when it says “the Messiah has not arrived”? It can be correct when it says “you must obey all the commands of the Mosaic law”?
Hmm… this sounds more like ‘syncretism’.
I have never practiced the Jewish religion and of mixed ethnic/racial background. That said, I have matrilineal Jewish heritage so very much consider myself a Jew. I do know the Bible pretty well, and from Genesis onwards, I can see the Eucharist foreshadowed. Being Catholic doesn’t mean being less Jewish, it means being Jewish in its fullest sense.
Absolutely WRONG!!
This is obviously not correct, from a purely logical point of view. If this were the case, Judaism and Christianity, Catholicism to be specific, wouldn’t be different religions.
That Jews can be saved (and in my humble opinion, which is not to be understood as a teaching of the Church, most people of any religion or even without a faith system stand a good chance of obtaining eternal salvation), I do not doubt for a second; but it needs to be understood that any person, Catholic or not, will obtain salvation, if they do, through Jesus Christ, whether they understood Him as the Son of God, a prophet, simply a mere man with virtuous teachings, or even if they didn’t believe He existed.
In the eyes of God, and in their destination, they are both equal. Christianity is an extension of Judaism to the Gentiles.
That every person that has walked the face of the planet is equally valuable to God, that they’re a creature of God made in His image and likeness and that God wants to be with everyone for all of eternity, regardless of religion, no-one denies. That’s true.
If a Jew carries their cross, and they all do, then why would Christ not be there with him/her?
He most definitely would, even if the person doesn’t realize it – that’s the point. Obviously as a Jew, they may not believe that Jesus is the Messiah and the Lord. What a person believes and that Jesus walks with them, even if they don’t realize it, are two different things. What I was discussing before was that the truths taught by Judaism and by Catholicism, that are obviously not in agreement. That doesn’t mean the Jew won’t get saved; and by that same token, by the way, it doesn’t mean that the Catholic will.
Because they do not believe in the one who has been sent by the Father. I challenge you to find a single verse in the New Testament suggesting that a Jew can be saved without accepting Christ. Yes, implicit belief yada yada, it’s a VERY THIN SLICE of hope, generally speaking. There is plenty out there, even on this site, discussing this. Making a sweeping statement about the Jews going to Heaven just because they’re Jewish has absolutely no foundation in our soteriological tradition.
Absolutely! Without a doubt, this is not only true, but also is affirmed by the teachings of the Catholic Church!
No, it isn’t. Christianity is an expression of the truth – a truth that was first expressed (if imperfectly or, at least, not in its fullness) to the Jews and then later to both Jews and Gentiles in its fullness…
I guess my question would be at this point: What is so wrong with the Jewish “path”?
What is wrong with it is that it is not the path of Jesus.
Right. You’ll notice this is precisely what I was addressing; that Catholicism contains the fullness of the Truth doesn’t automatically mean everyone else isn’t saved, or deserves not to be.
How do you think the book, Imitation of Christ, would address this issue? I don’t think it even brings it up. If it would help Christian prayer and practice, don’t you think it would have mentioned it? At least a little?