Can I read the Gospel?

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I have become involved in an ecumenical charity group in our town. The charity ‘Christian Aid’ have a service at an Anglican church to support thier fundraising week.
I offered to read as I do at my Catholic church but I reaslise that I am being asked to read John 15. 9 - 17.
As its not a Mass and could be described as a prayer meeting. Am I ok to do the reading.?
 
Yes, of course, for the reasons you have stated. It’s not Mass. You do know, of course, that lay people read the Gospel account of the Passion in many Catholic churches as part of Mass on Palm Sunday, though? In other words, there is not a blanket prohibition on laity reading the Gospel in church at Mass, but a general one for ordinary Masses.

But reading the Gospel at a non-Catholic service - no problem.
 
Yes, of course, for the reasons you have stated. It’s not Mass. You do know, of course, that lay people read the Gospel account of the Passion in many Catholic churches as part of Mass on Palm Sunday, though? In other words, there is not a blanket prohibition on laity reading the Gospel in church at Mass, but a general one for ordinary Masses.

But reading the Gospel at a non-Catholic service - no problem.
This article (with backing sources) confirms this:

cuf.org/faithfacts/details_view.asp?ffID=225

However, I’m more concerned with the “Christian” aid charity and whether or not it is partnered with organizations which go against the Church.

Because of this, and the habitual misapplication of principles of charity by out of context readings, I think that the Gospel passage selected for the event, combined with other concerns is a slippery slope and should be navigated with utmost care.

Have you consulted with your priest on the subtleties of all factors?
 
Thank you so much.
I understand that there are some aspects of this charity which may not be in total unity with Catholic standpoints. I have not spoken with our Priest yet but it has been generally agreed that we should show ecumanical compassion with the other churches in the town by accepting the invitation to join in this fundraising week. It could be that my reading is a step too far?
 
Thank you so much.
I understand that there are some aspects of this charity which may not be in total unity with Catholic standpoints. I have not spoken with our Priest yet but it has been generally agreed that we should show ecumanical compassion with the other churches in the town by accepting the invitation to join in this fundraising week. It could be that my reading is a step too far?
Would you, if invited, read from the Gospel according to St. Matthew’s 23rd chapter and 9th verse, at a Protestant rally?

If not, why give them similar out of context ammo for their beliefs which go against the Church?
 
Im not protesting at a rally and Im not giving anyone ammo.
There are believers in all denominations and I want to aknowledge that in an offer of fellowship in showing common support for a charity. I do however want to do it with the approval of my Catholic church.
I was not always Catholic, I came to the church from Anglican background, I had a strange distant image of Catholics but was enlightened by a evangelical liberal Catholic Priest.
I therefor know how important it is for us to show compassion to all believers.
 
Im not protesting at a rally and Im not giving anyone ammo.
There are believers in all denominations and I want to aknowledge that in an offer of fellowship in showing common support for a charity. I do however want to do it with the approval of my Catholic church.
I was not always Catholic, I came to the church from Anglican background, I had a strange distant image of Catholics but was enlightened by a evangelical liberal Catholic Priest.
I therefor know how important it is for us to show compassion to all believers.
You fail to recognize my example. I had hoped it would speak for itself in light of previous entries.

In Mt 23:9, we read call no man “Father”. This verse is used out of context by almost all anti-Catholic (whether overtly or covertly) Protestants as a means to say the Church is wrong. Reading such a thing, albeit from the Gospel, at a Protestant event is injurious to the Church and causes massive scandal in regard to its authority as embodied in the priest.

As such, having admitted that the charity has flaws and is not in communion with the Church, how can it properly provide for the love the Gospel reading for the event commands? It can’t fully do so. Why waste time on something incomplete and ineffective in comparison to the authority which can perfectly provide within the imperfect world?

You said the following:
I understand that there are some aspects of this charity which may not be in total unity with Catholic standpoints. I have not spoken with our Priest yet but it has been generally agreed that we should show ecumanical compassion with the other churches in the town by accepting the invitation to join in this fundraising week. It could be that my reading is a step too far?
Given that the charity is not in total unity with Catholic beliefs, and that in the UK especially it can take on aspects which are not only not in “total agreement” with the Church, but outright opposite, you answered your own question. (though we deal with this in the USA and anywhere marxist tenets have taken hold erroneously in place of Christian love).

Then, having looked at the Gospel to be read, a great portion of the Gospel, I admit, I realize that it is easy to take it out of context in the context of misunderstanding scripture. This happens all the time with more left-leaning charities, and with right-leaning charities as well.

So, in doing so, you provide ammo to an inherently flawed method of achieving an inherently perfect concept. That is as dangerous as giving a person a rifle and ammo and telling them to win the war without any training, or proper training if they are “trained”.

You also admit that you haven’t checked with your priest, and all these things combined have prompted you to ask a question on this forum. That alone indicates to me that you are unsure. Yet, somehow, when showing you why you are unsure, you become defensive.

I must ask, are you ready for the answer you may receive in light of this information, even if it’s from your priest?
 
John 15:9-17
As the Father has loved me, so I have loved you; abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. I have said these things to you so that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be complete.
“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you. I do not call you servants any longer, because the servant does not know what the master is doing; but I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything that I have heard from my Father. you did not choose me but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit that will last, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask him in my name. I am giving you these commands so that you may love one another.”
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What strikes me is the part of this piece of Scripture that says, "So that my joy may be in you"......  From what the OP says, he has received much Christian joy from a priest who was not only capable, but willing to evangelize.  Now the OP's heart is telling him to offer the same type of Christian joy and love to other's in his community.  I am not surprised that this reading is what*** God ***has offered Him to read.
Most of the readers on CAF are capable of working for God in an ecumenical slant. But are they willing and confident to do the hard work? It might feel like a slippery slope at times, but we are called to love one another, and love does not hide in a closet out of fear. True love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things…
1 Corinthians 1: 10 “Now I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you be in agreement and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same purpose.”

It makes*** total ***sense to me that our Lord would call someone who has experienced a beautiful conversion experience to go and evangelize… I’m just sayin’…
OP…God bless you as you carry His Joy to others…
 
Thanks folks… Good reading.

Must comment that this is not a ‘protestant event’ its an ecumenical gathering to support a charity.
Also I didnt fully appreciate jonbhorton’s reference to Mt 23:9 as C of E priests are usually also refered to as father.
But thanks again for your comments I do appreciate them.
God Bless

Peter
 
Thanks folks… Good reading.

Must comment that this is not a ‘protestant event’ its an ecumenical gathering to support a charity.
Also I didnt fully appreciate jonbhorton’s reference to Mt 23:9 as C of E priests are usually also refered to as father.
But thanks again for your comments I do appreciate them.
God Bless

Peter
Peter,

Are you seeing where I’m coming from? It would be no different than say reading a passage from the OT about how David and Jonathan loved each other… at a gay pride event. It becomes out of context and encourages behavior and means which are not good.

I am more concerned with the charity event and how the socialized infiltration of all things Christ could be unwittingly bolstered. I know virtually nothing about the C/E including what they call their clerics.

I don’t begrudge charity, reading the Gospel in context or anything else Christian; I despise their misapplication and the damage it does.
 
We agree jonbhorton !

For example - I have heard some despicable out of context Gospel references quoted on tv inviting viewers to donate funds to the channel. My event is a genuine showing of combined Christian faith, I truly dont think that anybody is trying to manipulate or deliberatly use Gospel out of context. We are at risk of reading too much into a simple town fate. I feel a desire to be truly ‘catholic’ and rest assured I will not desgrace the Catholic church in any act.

Peter
 
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