Can i recieve?

[baltobetsy]

Ok…I read this as instructions to those who assist at Masses.

How about the non-assisting members of the congregation. ??

The phrase, “assist at Mass,” is an older phrase that simply means attending Mass, even as part of the congregation. In this case, “assist” does not mean “help,” as it usually does in conversation.

The rules for the number of times one may receive Communion apply to all, with the exception of some priests who may, because of circumstances, have to celebrate more than two Masses in a day. Readers, cantors, servers, ushers, EMHC and anyone else who may help out are subject to the twice-a-day-with-the-second-time-at-Mass rule.

Betsy

 

[WhiteDove359]

woooooooow i did not realise i would create so much contraversy on this thread!!! lol

I went to the vigil mass at my church, st. edith. then i went to the church im thining about joining on sunday at 10 am, our lady of good council. and then i came back THAT evening to suport my friend in RCIA becuase she was geting thoughs rights before they send them to the bisop at the cathedral (i for get what its called). i asked the priest at the sunday evening mass if i was allowed to recive a thrid time becuase i recived the night before, and then that morning…and he said i should not recive. He said part of the reason why they limit you to two is because they dont want people reciveing over and over and over again because they dont wan you to forget that its a PRIVLAGE to recive the Eurchrist.

 

[benedictgal]

WWWWHOAAA…

No you cant receive as many times as you want.

If you receive on Sat Vigil, you are not to receive on Sunday for Sat. Vigil is seen as part of Sunday.

You can only receive once a day unless you have a situation where you go to daily Mass and then you attend say a wedding or a funeral Mass.

But no, receiving repeated is not allowed.

If you received yesterday at Sat. Vigil you should not receive again today.

Your answer, with all due respect, is incorrect. A person who has receive Holy Communion during the anticipated Sunday Mass (late afternoon/early evening Saturday) certainly can receive Holy Communion again on Sunday. Please check your sources as what you are relaying is not true.

 

[Luvadoxi]

I’m surprised this is made to be so confusing. I take the Canon law as meaning twice in one 24 hour period. So, just for an example, you receive on Saturday vigil. Then Sunday morning there’s a Communion service (no Mass, just distribution of the elements), and you receive. Then you receive Sunday night during a Mass. You’re good.

If it were reversed, with the Mass Sunday morning, you couldn’t receive a second time that day in a Communion service in the evening. (The vigil is on a different day, so that doesn’t enter into it.)

You could even receive Saturday morning (Mass or communion), Saturday evening (Mass), Sunday morning (Mass or communion) and Sunday evening (Mass) if you want to.

 

[Luvadoxi]

And if you’re in danger of death, you can receive (it’s called Viaticum) as many times as you need; the above rules don’t apply.

 

[Bookcat]

And if you’re in danger of death, you can receive (it’s called Viaticum) as many times as you need; the above rules don’t apply.

Can. 921 §1. The Christian faithful who are in danger of death from any cause are to be nourished by holy communion in the form of Viaticum.

§2. Even if they have been nourished by holy communion on the same day, however, those in danger of death are strongly urged to receive communion again.

§3. While the danger of death lasts, it is recommended that holy communion be administered often, but on separate days.

not as many times in a day as you need …

 

[likuske]

A day is midnight to midnight, except for Sundays and holy days, which by virtue of the anticipated Mass the evening before, are reckoned from sundown the evening before to midnight of the day itself. Sunday does not end at sundown, which is why many churches have Saturday AND Sunday evening Masses. But all other days are midnight to midnight.

As for the reception of communion, why not check what canon law actually says?

The Code of Canon Law (No. 917) stipulates, “A person who has received the Most Holy Eucharist may receive it again on the same day only during the celebration of the Eucharist in which the person participates, with due regard for the prescription of Canon 921, 2.” Following this lead, Canon 921, 2 stipulates, “Even if they have received Communion in the same day, those who are in danger of death are strongly urged to receive again.” Succinctly, a person may receive Holy Communion twice a day.

So, the danger of death aside, one may only receive communion twice in one day, and the second time would have to be during a Mass. In most cases, this means that someone may go to as many Masses as he or she likes, but receive only in the first and second. In a rare case, say, when a relative is brought Viaticum, one may receive it along with the sick person as the first time, then again at Mass a second time. But if the situation were reversed, the relative of the infirmed could receive at Mass the first time, but not with the sick communicant during the second, since that is not at Mass. And this mould apply to a communion service, as well, which is not a celebration of the Eucharist.

Thanks for clearing that up. I priest once told me that I could receive communion as many times as I wanted in a day as long as I attended mass from beginning to end but I guess he meant that I could go to as many masses as I wanted but could only receive communion twice a day. This is why I like these forums because sometiems people may have a misunderstanding about certain things and when explained properly and it quoted from a legitimate source it makes it clears it up.

 

[Bookcat]

Code of Canon Law States:

Can. 202 §1. In law, a day is understood as a period consisting of 24 continuous hours and begins at midnight unless other provision is expressly made; a week is a period of 7 days; a month is a period of 30 days, and a year is a period of 365 days unless a month and a year are said to be taken as they are in the calendar.

Can. 917 A person who has already received the Most Holy Eucharist can receive it a second time on the same day only within the eucharistic celebration in which the person participates, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 921, §2.

If it meant to include the vigil in this…it would have to expressly state this…which it does not…so ergo it is to be understood as the normal 24 hour day. Midnight to Midnight.

and further note:

Can. 1248 §1. A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass.

it even expressly states that the vigil is the preceding day…not the same day as Sunday or the Holy day…it is the vigil!

So I should summarize as well…

yes a person who receives Holy Communion at the vigil Mass may receive again on Sunday (or the Holy Day) in the morning …AND at an evening Mass (that Sunday evening) they participate in. (one does NOT need a special reason either)

For Sunday and Holy Days run from Midnight to Midnight in Canon Law (where this requirement is laid out) and thus the vigil does not count in this…

and of course if you are dying…one can receive even a third time! (which can make for a very happy death…)

 

[Just_Lurking]

Thanks for clearing that up. I priest once told me that I could receive communion as many times as I wanted in a day as long as I attended mass from beginning to end but I guess he meant that I could go to as many masses as I wanted but could only receive communion twice a day.

The number of times that you can receive communion in a day is a disciplinary rule of the Catholic Church, and has been changed several times. The version that you mention (“as many times as you want as long as you attend mass from beginning to end”) was the rule that was in force from 1983 to 1984.

 

[Bookcat]

The number of times that you can receive communion in a day is a disciplinary rule of the Catholic Church, and has been changed several times. The version that you mention (“as many times as you want as long as you attend mass from beginning to end”) was the rule that was in force from 1983 to 1984.

I very much doubt it… For the Code of Canon Law quoted above was proglimated in 1983

 

[Just_Lurking]

I very much doubt it… For the Code of Canon Law quoted above was proglimated in 1983

Technically speaking, you quoted an English translation of the official Latin Code of Canon Law, an English translation that was guided by the change/clarification made in 1984. Prior to 1984, the Latin word “iterum” was translated literally as “again”, and after the 1984 Vatican authentic interpretation, it is now typically translated as “a second time”.

See here for EWTN’s take on this.

 

[Marie5890]

Technically speaking, you quoted an English translation of the official Latin Code of Canon Law, an English translation that was guided by the change/clarification made in 1984. Prior to 1984, the Latin word “iterum” was translated literally as “again”, and after the 1984 Vatican authentic interpretation, it is now typically translated as “a second time”.

See here for EWTN’s take on this.

AH!! Clarity, thank you.

Now I understand why there have been conflicting responses. This comes from the early 1980’s. Those who instructed me I have no doubt are cradle Catholics pre-Vatican II…

Thanks

 

[Bookcat]

Technically speaking, you quoted an English translation of the official Latin Code of Canon Law, an English translation that was guided by the change/clarification made in 1984. Prior to 1984, the Latin word “iterum” was translated literally as “again”, and after the 1984 Vatican authentic interpretation, it is now typically translated as “a second time”.

See here for EWTN’s take on this.

Thanks.

But it was not that it was allowed to do so more than twice…but that it was that some were confused by the original language. Though the original law was still that one could only receive again once…as was seen in the other canon it pointed to.

" The exception to this is the one given in the law itself, canon 921, 2.

2. Even if they have received Communion in the same day, those who are in danger of death are strongly urged to receive again."

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they basically said…sorry it was thought it was clear from the context of the other canon that it referred you to at its tail end…but since you ask…we will be more clear for it is good to make things very clear so there is not misunderstanding…and so they then changed the words too.

Well it had been a long time since the 1917 code…so it was quite an undertaking! I guess some things had to be made more clear in practice…

sounds like me.

Great thanks!

 

[Just_Lurking]

Though the original law was still that one could only receive again once…as was seen in the other canon it pointed to.

" The exception to this is the one given in the law itself, canon 921, 2.

2. Even if they have received Communion in the same day, those who are in danger of death are strongly urged to receive again."

The exception here lies not only in the number of times, but in the manner of receiving. A person in need of Viaticum often is not able to participate in a full Mass, and even if they have only received communion once before in that day (so the two vs. more issue doesn’t enter into it), they are allowed to receive outside of a Mass by Viaticum, in exception to the general rule.

Several general canons come into play when interpreting unclear canonical language:

Can. 14 Laws, even invalidating and disqualifying ones, do not oblige when there is a doubt about the law. When there is a doubt about a fact, however, ordinaries can dispense from laws provided that, if it concerns a reserved dispensation, the authority to whom it is reserved usually grants it.

Can. 17 Ecclesiastical laws must be understood in accord with the proper meaning of the words considered in their text and context. If the meaning remains doubtful and obscure, recourse must be made to parallel places, if there are such, to the purpose and circumstances of the law, and to the mind of the legislator.

Can. 18 Laws which establish a penalty, restrict the free exercise of rights, or contain an exception from the law are subject to strict interpretation.

 

[Bookcat]

The exception here lies not only in the number of times, but in the manner of receiving. A person in need of Viaticum often is not able to participate in a full Mass, and even if they have only received communion once before in that day (so the two vs. more issue doesn’t enter into it), they are allowed to receive outside of a Mass by Viaticum, in exception to the general rule.

Several general canons come into play when interpreting unclear canonical language:

Can. 14 Laws, even invalidating and disqualifying ones, do not oblige when there is a doubt about the law. When there is a doubt about a fact, however, ordinaries can dispense from laws provided that, if it concerns a reserved dispensation, the authority to whom it is reserved usually grants it.

Can. 17 Ecclesiastical laws must be understood in accord with the proper meaning of the words considered in their text and context. If the meaning remains doubtful and obscure, recourse must be made to parallel places, if there are such, to the purpose and circumstances of the law, and to the mind of the legislator.

Can. 18 Laws which establish a penalty, restrict the free exercise of rights, or contain an exception from the law are subject to strict interpretation.

one must read my posts…together…

 

[WhiteDove359]

lol im still so confused. all the parishes in the world need to post a big sign saying " you can only recive communion X amount of times with in this time period" or what ever. after reading everything on here, yea im just very confused

 

[baltobetsy]

lol im still so confused. all the parishes in the world need to post a big sign saying " you can only recive communion X amount of times with in this time period" or what ever. after reading everything on here, yea im just very confused

Twice in any midnight-to-midnight period, and the second time may only be at Mass. A third time if you’re dying.

That’s it.

Betsy