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I’ve been reading a lot of threads on the non catholic board - until a very very short while ago I wasn’t sure there was a God but now I am.
There seems to be a lot of discussioin about Mary as the Mother of God, whether she is a co-redeemer, if she stayed a virgin, if she had more children, and so on and if any of this can be found in the Bible, and if not, then the inference is it is man made tradition and therefore irrelevant, if not borderline idolatry. That’s my understanding of the two camps anyhow.
A lot of these discussions, even though I read them, go right over my head.
So I thought I would just share with you my actual experience of Mary, without any theology or scripture or tradition or anything else attached.
It’s just a few simple sentences of what actually, really, happened to me since comming onto these boards.
I did not know if there was a God.
I did not subscribe to the notion of sin.
I did not pray, go to church or anything else - why would I?
I believed we are all the architects of our own life.
I believed when we die - thats it! Game over.
A woman, who I never met before and don’t know, gave me a card with The Magnificat on it.
I read it, and it spoke to me.
I heard the words ‘‘Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus’’ shortly afterwards.
This made me collapse and crumble. I SAW and FELT just how bad I was, had been, and the effects of my sinfullness on others. (it’s to do with abortion and the woman’s right to chose but I won’t bore you with details here)
It was like comming home to your mother, when you have been as bad as bad can be, and she holds you, and in that embrace, all you feel is love. No admonition, no scolding, no lecture on how bad you are and what a disappointment you are, no threats, no lectures, just a total and all consuming embrace of unconditional love.
And because of this I could see so clearly my sinfullness and badness and without hearing or feeling a word of admonition, I knew what I had to do - and I did it.
That’s why, reading the threads on co-redeemer - I have no issue with this concept. I wasn’t praying to God, I wasn’t praying to Jesus, I wasn’t praying to the Holy Ghost. I wasn’t praying at all.
But a woman came into my life, and She broke me, and made me look at the life I was living and the work I was doing, and I knew I had to stop. And I did. Where did I get the courage and strength to do it. From that Embrace !
My newly found belief in God has come through experiencing His Mother Mary.
If that’s what people mean by co-redeeming - then Mary is indeed co-redeemer with her son, Jesus.
That’s all.
Nothing profound or intellectually challenging. I have no Bible quotes or anything else to give you.
All I have to share is what has just happened to me, by God working through his Mother Mary.
Bruxilda.
There seems to be a lot of discussioin about Mary as the Mother of God, whether she is a co-redeemer, if she stayed a virgin, if she had more children, and so on and if any of this can be found in the Bible, and if not, then the inference is it is man made tradition and therefore irrelevant, if not borderline idolatry. That’s my understanding of the two camps anyhow.
A lot of these discussions, even though I read them, go right over my head.
So I thought I would just share with you my actual experience of Mary, without any theology or scripture or tradition or anything else attached.
It’s just a few simple sentences of what actually, really, happened to me since comming onto these boards.
I did not know if there was a God.
I did not subscribe to the notion of sin.
I did not pray, go to church or anything else - why would I?
I believed we are all the architects of our own life.
I believed when we die - thats it! Game over.
A woman, who I never met before and don’t know, gave me a card with The Magnificat on it.
I read it, and it spoke to me.
I heard the words ‘‘Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus’’ shortly afterwards.
This made me collapse and crumble. I SAW and FELT just how bad I was, had been, and the effects of my sinfullness on others. (it’s to do with abortion and the woman’s right to chose but I won’t bore you with details here)
It was like comming home to your mother, when you have been as bad as bad can be, and she holds you, and in that embrace, all you feel is love. No admonition, no scolding, no lecture on how bad you are and what a disappointment you are, no threats, no lectures, just a total and all consuming embrace of unconditional love.
And because of this I could see so clearly my sinfullness and badness and without hearing or feeling a word of admonition, I knew what I had to do - and I did it.
That’s why, reading the threads on co-redeemer - I have no issue with this concept. I wasn’t praying to God, I wasn’t praying to Jesus, I wasn’t praying to the Holy Ghost. I wasn’t praying at all.
But a woman came into my life, and She broke me, and made me look at the life I was living and the work I was doing, and I knew I had to stop. And I did. Where did I get the courage and strength to do it. From that Embrace !
My newly found belief in God has come through experiencing His Mother Mary.
If that’s what people mean by co-redeeming - then Mary is indeed co-redeemer with her son, Jesus.
That’s all.
Nothing profound or intellectually challenging. I have no Bible quotes or anything else to give you.
All I have to share is what has just happened to me, by God working through his Mother Mary.
Bruxilda.
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