Can i still recieve the eucharist

[maryjk]

But not all laws constitute grave matter if you break them.

God Bless

But if the OP’s conscience is bothering him enough to come here to ask? It seems that he already knows it was wrong to give it to the underage friend. And he should go to Confession.

I wonder what his priest would say if he told the priest that people here thought that alcohol laws were a joke.

 

[garn9173]

We must remember not all laws are just or moral. Laws concerning alcohol are very subject to change. Level of enforcement varies widely.

Try using your God given conscience to decide…start with what was your intent? If your conscience is not fully formed, ask a priest.

If this country wasn’t so taboo with underaged drinking, IMO, underage drinking wouldn’t the issue it is now. The more you tell a teenager not do something, the more likley they will rebel and do it behind a parent’s back. I cann’t think of the number of times I dranked when I was in high school.

Most bars on your 21st birthday will give you your first drink on the house. When I turned 21, my buddies and I went to multiple bars and it was that way in nearly every bar we went.

 

[bilop]

But if the OP’s conscience is bothering him enough to come here to ask? It seems that he already knows it was wrong to give it to the underage friend. And he should go to Confession.

I wonder what his priest would say if he told the priest that people here thought that alcohol laws were a joke.

None of that makes the incident as described (having a couple of bees with a friend in his late teens" a mortal sin.

If he wants to confess it, fine. But he need not abstain from the Eucharist.

Now, if the circumstances were different (e.g. the friend was 10, or he was trying to get a girl drunk for nefarious purposes) then it could be mortally sinful. But, not as described.

God Bless

 

[paperwight66]

The numbres can be pulled from the websites of the government agencies or even from the press (e.g. The italian portal for epidemiology for public health) I have being following the numbers for Italy and I am really bothered by the trend. I thought that laws like the ones here in the USA were silly because when I was a young man in Italy we never had the big problems like in the USA. However, now when I read the Italian news about the alcohol related traffic deaths on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights I am shocked. It looks like in Europe one out of four car accidents is caused by alcohol (Cnesps)

So when you say ‘Europe’ you really meant to write ‘Italy’? You haven’t collected all the figures for all the nations which make up Europe?

 

[Deo_Gratias42]

For what it’s worth, as someone growing up where the legal drinking age is 19, and now living some place where it is 18, and in the US 18 is the age one legally becomes an adult, I think 21 as the legal drinking age is a little on the high side. You can buy a gun, but you can’t buy a beer. Peculiar. That being said, right now the law says 21, so that should be respected.

I will note that my parents started letting me drink alcohol under their strict and careful guidance as soon as I received my First Communion in grade 2.

 

[Cristiano]

So when you say ‘Europe’ you really meant to write ‘Italy’? You haven’t collected all the figures for all the nations which make up Europe?

The quote that says 25% of the accidents are for Europe as a whole. When it comes to statistics in general I usually look at the summaries for Europe and Italy in particular. I usually do not have an interest to look at each European country in detail, the same goes in regard to world statistics. You could go and look at the details for each country if you are interested, I am not and that is really not the topic of this thread.

 

[thistle]

I think that you act like you are ignorant of law, history and statistics. The law is not a joke and you can see that in Europe the number of people killed on the streets because of drunk drivers keeps going up. Second violation of the law is not fine from either a legal point of view or from a Catholic one. Third the motivation of the law has nothing to do with the Federal funding for public roads, the motivation of the law is based on actuarial data like those collected and used to pass laws on seat belt uses. I can see why people have issues with inconsistent approaches toward the legal age of discernment depending upon the specific topic (e.g. serving in the military, use of alcohol, sexual relationships etc.), I am one of those people troubled by inconsistencies. However, laws do not exist only to enforce moral behaviors but they are based also on some utilitarian concepts and there is nothing wrong with that as long as they are not immoral.

Please direct me to the source of your information, and when you say Europe which country do you mean. Also give me the statistical comparison with the USA.
You seem to be making an unfounded statement and unable to give us documentary support for your claim.
Telling people to google themselves means you have nothing to support your position.

 

[paperwight66]

Ok, I know this is a little off-topic, but since the claim has been made that ‘Europe’ has a rising trend in fatal car-accidents involving drink, and to underline the point we ‘Europeans’ try to make so often that one country in Europe (in Cristiano’s case, Italy) can’t be given as an example of Europe as a whole, here are the figures for England and Wales.

In 1979, out of a ttoal of 19,470 accidents involving drink, there were 1,640 deaths.
In 2008, the latest year for which I could find stats, out of 8,640 accidents involving drink, there were 430 deaths.

So not only have the number of accidents gone down, the number of deaths have as well (and of course, the number of vehicles on the roads has increased during that period so the decrease in accidents and deaths is even nore impressive).

Cristiano, care to revise your claim that a quarter of car-accident deaths in ‘Europe’ are caused by drink?

The broader point I am trying to make to non-Europeans that claiming what happens in one country in Europe applies to all of them is like we Europeans seeing a news item about polar bears invading streets in Alaska and saying that American cities have polar bears wandering about in them.

 

[garn9173]

For what it’s worth, as someone growing up where the legal drinking age is 19, and now living some place where it is 18, and in the US 18 is the age one legally becomes an adult, I think 21 as the legal drinking age is a little on the high side. You can buy a gun, but you can’t buy a beer. Peculiar. That being said, right now the law says 21, so that should be respected.

I will note that my parents started letting me drink alcohol under their strict and careful guidance as soon as I received my First Communion in grade 2.

and you can vote and die for your country at the age of 18, but cann’t legaly have a beer.

Kudos to your parents, they taught you how to responsibly drink. That illustrates my point eariler in this thread about under aged drinking being such a taboo in this country.

 

[maryjk]

Hello i am 21 and have a friend who is underaged. Yesterday we had around 2 beers at my house. I was wondering since my friend is not of age and everything and it could be considered procuring. Thanks!

Thanks i was all worked up that i’m in mortal sin, i’ll definately mention it at my next confession.

None of that makes the incident as described (having a couple of beers with a friend in his late teens" a mortal sin.

If he wants to confess it, fine. But he need not abstain from the Eucharist.

Now, if the circumstances were different (e.g. the friend was 10, or he was trying to get a girl drunk for nefarious purposes) then it could be mortally sinful. But, not as described.

God Bless

Unless you got a private message that explained more of the circumstances, or I missed something, we have no idea the age of the person or the sex. In other words, we don’t know the circumstances.

So I am not sure how you are coming to the conclusion that is it not a mortal sin.