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From Anna Scott:
I grew up in Southern Baptist Churches, where the threat of Hell was always dangling above my head. The fear of Hell is not the right motive for coming to Christ.
I read a comment from a Jew in Israel who wrote about Christians trying to convert him to avoid Hell. He said he serves God because He is God. I think we, as Christians, can learn something from this wise Jewish man.
Hi Anna: Your post makes a lot of sense. I have often thought that you don’t really love someone until you can do so without conditions, expectations, threats or promises. I have further wondered how one can vouch for the legitimacy of their feelings once such considerations have entered into the dynamics of the relationship. These questions are of particular interest when brought into the context of the relationship between God and humankind. Anyway, I liked your post - thanks!

Your friend,
Sufjon
 
Someone needs their :coffee:

****A non-Christian who honestly searches for the true can indeed be saved by Christ and go ****to Heaven. Having been saved by Christ, he or she is now a Christian in Heaven :extrahappy:

Hence… there are NO non-Christians in heaven!
Are you telling me to wake up RD?:rolleyes:
Of course there are no non-Christians in heaven,
And of course what you say is true.
However, we do not know everything.
We have a merciful God who loves all his Children , and I can’t believe he will send good God fearing people of non Christian beliefs, through no fault of their own, to Hell( I believe that is what the Purgatory State is for,as i’ve said before) any more than I believe he sends unbaptized aborted babes to hell.
I believe God has a way of purifying all such souls and we will only know for sure what it is when we experience afterlife.
My trust is in Him for all things.
Peace, and goodnight, Carlan
 
I have heard it said many times that God does not send anybody to hell. Hell is a choice that a person makes when he/she intentionally refuses the saving grace that God has to offer. It is not God who condemns. It is the person who condemns himself or herself.

I put before you fire and water, life and death. Choose life.
 
15thClub,

I think you are right; and this leads us to the Great Commandment found in Matthew:

Matthew 22:
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

I grew up in Southern Baptist Churches, where the threat of Hell was always dangling above my head. The fear of Hell is not the right motive for coming to Christ.

I read a comment from a Jew in Israel who wrote about Christians trying to convert him to avoid Hell. He said he serves God because He is God. I think we, as Christians, can learn something from this wise Jewish man.

Peace,
Anna
From Anna Scott:

Hi Anna: Your post makes a lot of sense. I have often thought that you don’t really love someone until you can do so without conditions, expectations, threats or promises. I have further wondered how one can vouch for the legitimacy of their feelings once such considerations have entered into the dynamics of the relationship. These questions are of particular interest when brought into the context of the relationship between God and humankind. Anyway, I liked your post - thanks!

Your friend,
Sufjon
Sufjon,

I think the threat of Hell actually takes away from the sacrifice of Christ. Christ came to us as God Incarnate, demonstrating the ultimate self-giving, self-sacrificing love. If we would live our lives loving God and others with a fraction of that of Christ, our world would be a completely different place. As the Lord’s Prayer says, “Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” As Christians, we are “Kingdom people” living in Covenant with the Holy Trinity.

We are called to a life that emulates Christ, offering ourselves to God as living sacrifices. Love is at the heart of this call. The words of Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Cardinal Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, addressed the “fall-outs of a dismal lack of love” in our world:

“All ungodly acts are fall-outs of a dismal lack of love between and amongst us. Who can really die for another man today? Dare say, nobody can, especially in a world like ours that lacks love, a world that is full of wickedness, envy, selfishness and intrigues.”
link: allafrica.com/stories/201104250443.html.

1 Peter 2:
1 So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. 2 Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— 3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.

4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Peace to you on your journey,Sufjon,
Anna
 
So do you believe that aborted babies and severely mentally handicapped people go straight to hell when they die, since they were never able to know or understand the gospel?
:rolleyes:

No I do not believe that. Aborted babies, very young children, and mentally handicapped cannot comprehend that there is a God or know/understand the Gospel. It is not their fault. In one of the verses I quoted it says just from God’s creations one should be able to know God, so it is their fault if they are mentally capable of believing in God whether or not they have heard of the Gospel.

Romans 1:18-20 says:
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,** since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. **\
 
Kristin234,
We must consider the entire Scripture, not just a few verses. Do you really know what happens at the hour of our death? Does Christ come to those who do not know him? We cannot comprehend the love and mercy of the Holy Trinity. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!
No I do not know and I never claimed I knew, but the Bible tells me that those who believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life and that those who do not believe in him do not have eternal life. So should I just ignore those verses? If even those who do not believe in him get to heaven then what is the point of evangelizing? If we can get to heaven without believing in Christ then we do not need him.

The Bible clearly tells us that it is by grace through faith that we have been saved and not by our own works. How can someone who has had no faith in God get saved?

Yes, God is a loving God, but he is also Just. He tells us that without Christ we cannot have salvation, and if he is a righteous and just God he will stick to his Word.
 
I am currently involved in a heated arguement with my brother in law who is adament that non christians who live a decent and moral life can go to heaven. My understandig is that Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
But here is something you must remember only God can make that call.

So example is this a person dies and meets God if he wants God and God wants him he is in.

But here is how you may be looking at it, I think, and if you are I agree with you. If when a person dies and they meet Christ and refuse to accept him and don’t want to be with him, then yes I agree they wll not enter heaven. No matter how decent and moral they lived their life.
 
No I do not know and I never claimed I knew, but the Bible tells me that those who believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life and that those who do not believe in him do not have eternal life. So should I just ignore those verses? If even those who do not believe in him get to heaven then what is the point of evangelizing? If we can get to heaven without believing in Christ then we do not need him.

The Bible clearly tells us that it is by grace through faith that we have been saved and not by our own works. How can someone who has had no faith in God get saved?

Yes, God is a loving God, but he is also Just. He tells us that without Christ we cannot have salvation, and if he is a righteous and just God he will stick to his Word.
But what about many people who do not know about Christ and his love. You must remember especially today many people do not go to Church and fight so much over religion that they were never taught the true word of Christ.

You hear it today a friend of mine said her Grandfather said I would never step foot in a Catholic Church. Usually its about people in the past or a Priest who was not a good Priest soured People over our great Church.

But God knows all and he knows a heart and he will sort it all out.

That is what my Mom and I say. LET GOD SORT IT OUT!!😃
 
But what about many people who do not know about Christ and his love. You must remember especially today many people do not go to Church and fight so much over religion that they were never taught the true word of Christ.

You hear it today a friend of mine said her Grandfather said I would never step foot in a Catholic Church. Usually its about people in the past or a Priest who was not a good Priest soured People over our great Church.

But God knows all and he knows a heart and he will sort it all out.

That is what my Mom and I say. LET GOD SORT IT OUT!!😃
Rinnie, I believe you have it right in this sense.
and if nothing else, common sense works for me.
Peace, Carlan
 
Are you telling me to wake up RD?:rolleyes:
Of course there are no non-Christians in heaven,
And of course what you say is true.
Yes, I’ve been posting this message since the beginning of the thread.
 
I am currently involved in a heated arguement with my brother in law who is adament that non christians who live a decent and moral life can go to heaven. My understandig is that Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Yes, but what does that mean beyond the ordinary self referent Christian interpretation?
 
Sufjon,

I think the threat of Hell actually takes away from the sacrifice of Christ. Christ came to us as God Incarnate, demonstrating the ultimate self-giving, self-sacrificing love. If we would live our lives loving God and others with a fraction of that of Christ, our world would be a completely different place. As the Lord’s Prayer says, “Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” As Christians, we are “Kingdom people” living in Covenant with the Holy Trinity.

We are called to a life that emulates Christ, offering ourselves to God as living sacrifices. Love is at the heart of this call. The words of Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Cardinal Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, addressed the “fall-outs of a dismal lack of love” in our world:

“All ungodly acts are fall-outs of a dismal lack of love between and amongst us. Who can really die for another man today? Dare say, nobody can, especially in a world like ours that lacks love, a world that is full of wickedness, envy, selfishness and intrigues.”
link: allafrica.com/stories/201104250443.html.

1 Peter 2:
1 So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. 2 Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— 3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good.

4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Peace to you on your journey,Sufjon,
Anna
Thanks Anna - as usual, you have wonderful insight and I am always gladdened by your posts.

Your friend
Sufjon
 
I am currently involved in a heated arguement with my brother in law who is adament that non christians who live a decent and moral life can go to heaven. My understandig is that Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Hi Mokdam: This is not the first time I have seen this subject on CAF. As a non-Christian, (or object of the subject in this case) who has had some exposure to Christian thought and theology, I always find it a fascinating question. It does seem a bit to me like a group of people walking on a shaky ledge above a gorge of unfathomable depth and peril, speculating as to whether or not the guy on the other side will slip and fall. Be that as it may, I have seen answers that run the gamut, from “absolutely not” to “it’s possible,” and in some cases even “probable”, all coming from people of the same faith tradition.

Of all the ideas revealed in the responses, the one that intrigues me the most seems to be the most predominant. This is the idea that heaven is a specific place, wherein one is granted admittance based firstly on how well one interprets the meaning of the words of Jesus, and secondly on how well one follows the procedures prescribed for one particular interpretation v. the other. In some cases, these are well mapped out in sacraments, time completed in obligatory attendance at formal proceedings or services, and properly following a rather elaborate set of rules as indicated in the charter of whatever faith organization one has been indoctrinated, along with a set code of conduct. Then, at some prescribed time, whether it be at death or at the end of the world, one is called before Jesus in the hopes of having the entitlements, accoutrements and decorations attending the office of “Inhabitant of Heaven” conferred on them. All very formalized and analogous to human society and thought organization, and strikingly intimating of what the outcome would be if people took the words of Jesus and then went off and created God in their own image. The line of thinking revealed here misses the possibility that heaven is inside you and all around you, and rather than gaining admittance, one needs to come to a realization of it in the here and now, or simply put, a state of being gained through spiritual growth and effort rather than a place one gains admittance to upon being able to produce the right tokens at the door, or if your transcripts reflect completion of the necessary course of effort and duties executed, and so done, having intuited the right choice in regards to which institution one selected to complete the program in.

Of course, all this fretting and speculation is done in spite of the fact that the only instructions given by Jesus on how to accomplish this were beautifully simple to comprehend, but tremendously difficult to actually do. This of course is probably why it is overlooked in favor of other ancillary activities and endeavors that are far easier to perform, but probably don’t get anyone very far. Specifically, I am talking about loving God with all of one’s heart and mind and loving one’s neighbor as oneself. It’s not just an idea or a task for some other time. It is way in which one transforms into the state of being called heaven. One who applies their fullest effort to this will in time reveal the heaven inherent in themselves and see it in all other beings. Seeing it in oneself and all other beings, our oneness with others and with God is finally realized, and being realized, it is therefore achieved. Having come to this level of existence, one quickly finds it easy to behave in a way consistent with what is prescribed in the other commandments. It requires no membership, no rites and no rules of the charter. God gave the same instructions in His encounters with other people in other cultures in other times, and this is of course because all of us are His. Many have framed an idea of God as the provincial overlord of one group of people in one culture, and view Him within the confines of one encounter with God among us in the midst of the many He created - all with the same care, I can assure you. He can be trusted in such regard. He did not create all the people who came before Jesus, or who instead have other deep and rich cultural encounters with Him to simply serve as a backdrop to some chosen people who might have been fortunate enough to be born in the footprint of a particular tradition. He has an entire universe that is probably filled with all sorts of beings to care for, and none of them probably “gets into heaven.” Over time, however, and with the right effort, heaven can be revealed as already enmeshed in our beings, and waiting to be awakened. God’s house has many mansions, and these could very well be the hearts of those who see His kingdom inside them and around them.

Your friend,
Sufjon
 
Kristin234,

We must consider the entire Scripture, not just a few verses. Do you really know what happens at the hour of our death? Does Christ come to those who do not know him? We cannot comprehend the love and mercy of the Holy Trinity. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! . . .
No I do not know and I never claimed I knew, but the Bible tells me that those who believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life and that those who do not believe in him do not have eternal life. So should I just ignore those verses? If even those who do not believe in him get to heaven then what is the point of evangelizing? If we can get to heaven without believing in Christ then we do not need him.

The Bible clearly tells us that it is by grace through faith that we have been saved and not by our own works. How can someone who has had no faith in God get saved?

Yes, God is a loving God, but he is also Just. He tells us that without Christ we cannot have salvation, and if he is a righteous and just God he will stick to his Word.
Kristin234,

You have misunderstood me. I am not saying that you should disregard those Scriptures; and I agree that God is a righteous judge and that God does indeed stick to His Word.

Truly all who enter God’s Kingdom will know the Holy Trinity and the Salvation only Christ has accomplished.

My point is that we do not know what happens at the hour of our death or even after death–in regards to the call and salvation of Christ.

I gave the Jewish people as an example. If you consider Scripture as a whole, you cannot really say the Jews, who die without accepting Christ, will not come to know him as Lord and Savior. Israel was called by God as a chosen people; and as you said, “God will stick to his Word.” Holy Scripture tells us the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable.

Regarding the Jewish people:
Romans 11:
28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Also, consider the account in 1 Peter Chapter 3. After the crucifixion of Christ—after suffering “once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous,” He went to the “spirits in prison,” to those who did not obey God in the days of Noah. Did Christ not bring salvation even to them?

1 Peter 3:
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

We really cannot judge the soul of another, or even our own soul.

None of what I have said takes away the need for evangelism. We are called to spread the good news, not scare people into converting to Christianity. How well can we know Christ, if we come to Him only to avoid Hell? When you think about it, that is a rather narcissistic motive.

Peace,
Anna
 
. . . .The Bible clearly tells us that it is by grace through faith that we have been saved and not by our own works. How can someone who has had no faith in God get saved? . . .
Kristin234,

The idea of “getting saved” is another issue. When we consider all of Scripture, we find that salvation is a process, not a moment.

If we just pull out a few verses, the picture of salvation is incomplete. For example, I could quote James 2:24 and it would appear that we are justified by works:
James 2: 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?

In the next verse, we find that faith without works is dead: **James 2:**26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.

Yet, I do not believe in a “works” salvation. Christ accomplished our salvation on the cross. So, yes we have been justified by faith----but that is not all Holy Scripture says about salvation.

The Great Commandment says that we must love God with all our heart, soul, and mind; and love our neighbors as ourselves. (Matthew 22:37; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27.)

Being a doer of the word and perseverance are also factors in our salvation:
James 1: 22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. 24For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. 25But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.

When Jesus sent out the Apostles, he warned them of the persecution they would face and said the one who endures to the end with be saved (perseverance.)

Matthew 10: 22 and you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

Baptism, the circumcision made without hands–which brings us into Covenant with God-- also plays a role in our salvation. Through Baptism, our sins are forgiven. We are buried with Christ in baptism, in which we are also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.

Acts 2: 38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Colossians 2: 11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead.

1 Peter 3:
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

The Holy Eucharist/Lord’s Supper also plays a role in salvation and is connected with having life in us and being raised to eternal life.

John 6: 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

After all of this, there is what I call the “really scary Scripture” which describes those who think they are saved, but are not:
Matthew 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

I urge you to read all of these passages in context. A thorough reading of both the Old Testament and the New Testament–beginning to end–will help put things in context and give you a more complete picture of salvation.

So, from these passages, we find loving God and our neighbors, faith, being doers of the word/works, perseverance, Baptism, the Lord’s Supper----all are connected to salvation–though this is not an exhaustive list.

Again, I will stress that it is through Christ and His ultimate Sacrifice that we are saved—And it is only through Christ that we can do any of the things necessary for salvation.

So, we live in the hope of the resurrection; and as St. Paul said, we are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

Peace,
Anna
 
(snip) Please read Sufjon’s full text above
…Of all the ideas revealed in the responses, the one that intrigues me the most seems to be the most predominant. This is the idea that heaven is a specific place, wherein one is granted admittance based firstly on how well one interprets the meaning of the words of Jesus, and secondly on how well one follows the procedures prescribed for one particular interpretation v. the other…
Of course, all this fretting and speculation is done in spite of the fact that the only instructions given by Jesus on how to accomplish this were beautifully simple to comprehend, but tremendously difficult to actually do. This of course is probably why it is overlooked in favor of other ancillary activities and endeavors that are far easier to perform, but probably don’t get anyone very far…Over time, however, and with the right effort, heaven can be revealed as already enmeshed in our beings, and waiting to be awakened. God’s house has many mansions, and these could very well be the hearts of those who see His kingdom inside them and around them.

Your friend,
Sufjon
This is beautifully an simply stated. thank you, Sufjon.

A New Yorker now living, I believe, in Fiji, said “This is always already the ‘other’ world.” He spent a lot of time and effort atempting to de-fuse the prejudices inherent in the ordinary subject–object type of awareness patterns we clothe the world in despite the crashings against our senses of the actual Unity of existence in far greater, more subtle, and complete ways and levels than we allow in, except perhaps hint at through what science incompletely calls"ecology." But science fails by remaining flat, as is its province, as it has a methodology whose scope requires publicly observable phenomenon and repeatably.

Religion, as commonly understood, hints at depth, as the people who espouse it, whatever their choice, seem to intuit that there is an inner dimension, and they are right. It is, in fact, the only real dimension. And yet there is more disagreement here than in nearly any other area, with even close to 40,000 Christian sects. and the more “unlike” any other re-ligion is to another, the greater the tendency to devolve to violence, that violence being usually against their most sacred and sane portions of creed. Witness the “Battle of the Brooms” in Bethlehem!

But simple faith, by any label, necessarily obliterates the opportunity to experience something very obvious to those who have seen a bit past the veil of simple mental, emotional, or intellectual comprehension of tenet, dogma, and tradition no matter how sincere. It is this: that while religion is very very useful at doing what its word origin implies, “to tie back to,” it has to do with technique in the beginning stages and tends to freeze advancement at that phase. It does this by obscuring or occluding the mystical and hinders the seeker from developing his devotion into an art founded on praxis that can yield repeatable results, as does science. In other words, simple religion tends to occlude the process of transformation that in fact, as a different reading of the Gospel will reveal, one from the standpoint of accomplishment, is what Jesus, as part of an ancient stream of Sages, had actually intended.

So as Sufjon indicates, the Faithful do their devotions from an adopted protocol and within an adopted paradigm, and those paradigms differ one from another and are even adversarial. Yet over the ages there are those who independently from one another, and regardless of era, age, culture, birth religion, status, or any other factor, have discovered an inner structure exceptionally congruent with each other and on deep examination with the teachings of the Church. The difference is that this discovery yields an awakening regarding Identity as an abstract, yet intimately and personally iterated as a life fulfilled in exact accordance to what one might call the highest of Christian ideals.

The difference is that this iteration in action is not learned. It is understood as being the structure of *oneself *beyond the struggle of right vs wrong. It is simple Love as act with no thought about it. It is the fulfillment of clarity regarding the idea of being “created in the image and likeness of God.” It is living from an identified-with comprehension of the Great Commandment and of the forms of the Golden Rule. It is, as well, as far as I can see, the fulfillment of the examination of conscience to it’s logical end, and of the vow of poverty.

So experiencing “heaven” may not be a promise only of some after death state for a few who followed rules, but of meeting death here and now in an actual way in terms of the personal will that combats the notions of Unity and perpetrates division and its violent accouterments. It is surrender here and now to the Living God, knowing that there is none other, and none second.
 
Scripture says the Law of the Lord is written on the heart.
When Jesus describes the Last Judgment, He does not ask how many devotions a person participated in. He does not ask about religious affiliation. Instead He separates the sheep from the goats. Those who gave water to the thirsty, fed the hungry, clothed the naked, and gave shelter and comfort to the homeless enter the Kingdom of Heaven while those who did not were refused entry. “Whatever you did to the least of my brothers, this you did to me.”
Those who did these things did not necessarily recognize Jesus at the time they cared for their brothers/sisters in need.

When we come before the Judgment seat, we will be asked one question, "How much did you love?"–Bl. Teresa of Calcutta
 
I wish I could remember the source. Nonetheless, I did read the article and I assure everyone here, I remember the words well. Apparently, some news has leaked from an eyewitness about Steve Jobs just before he passed and it’s important to know some background. Steve Jobs was baptized in the Lutheran Church by his adoptive parents. In his adult life, he had embraced Buddhism and other Eastern religions. The story goes on to state that just before Steve passed, he was saying, “Wow, Wow, Wow.” Now the story does not provide the tint and tone of “Wow.” Were those words spoken form fear or hope? What was Steve Jobs experiencing at that moment in time? Would a man about to see a glint of eternal hopelessness be uttering the word “Wow” or would such an acclimation be the result of the beginning of a recognition of something quite wonderful? I am truly perplexed myself.

Historical context, exegesis, etc etc notwithstanding, none of us really know such that we can take such facts to court. Again, I must leave this one to God. I’m not in the position to do God’s job…none of us are. My job is this, I love God with all my heart and soul and my neighbor as myself, seek justice, love tenderly, speak of His mercy and kingdom and walk humbly with him. Finally, I must admit it was my decision to weigh in one more time but with all due respect, this is a subject of argumentative futility to which there will never be unanimous agreement. Let us speak of God’s love and redemption and refrain from the sale of fire insurance policies.
 
Scripture says the Law of the Lord is written on the heart.
When Jesus describes the Last Judgment, He does not ask how many devotions a person participated in. He does not ask about religious affiliation. Instead He separates the sheep from the goats. Those who gave water to the thirsty, fed the hungry, clothed the naked, and gave shelter and comfort to the homeless enter the Kingdom of Heaven while those who did not were refused entry. “Whatever you did to the least of my brothers, this you did to me.”
Those who did these things did not necessarily recognize Jesus at the time they cared for their brothers/sisters in need.

When we come before the Judgment seat, we will be asked one question, "How much did you love?"–Bl. Teresa of Calcutta
Thank you, DebChris for a sane, charitable, as well as scriptural answer. I also very much like your quote from Bl. Teresa of Calcutta. She was a guest at my Mentor’s home, and her assistant wanted to take him back with them to Calcutta! 🙂

You might already know that in Dannion Brinkley’s Saved by the Light, he states that in the “judgement” phase of an NDE, if one experiences that, the individual asks himself with utter dispassion, clarity, and full knowledge, two questions: “Did I love?” and “What did I learn?” In mine, I kind of skipped over that part, lol!
 
I wish I could remember the source. Nonetheless, I did read the article and I assure everyone here, I remember the words well. Apparently, some news has leaked from an eyewitness about Steve Jobs just before he passed and it’s important to know some background. Steve Jobs was baptized in the Lutheran Church by his adoptive parents. In his adult life, he had embraced Buddhism and other Eastern religions. The story goes on to state that just before Steve passed, he was saying, “Wow, Wow, Wow.” Now the story does not provide the tint and tone of “Wow.” Were those words spoken form fear or hope? What was Steve Jobs experiencing at that moment in time? Would a man about to see a glint of eternal hopelessness be uttering the word “Wow” or would such an acclimation be the result of the beginning of a recognition of something quite wonderful? I am truly perplexed myself.

Historical context, exegesis, etc etc notwithstanding, none of us really know such that we can take such facts to court. Again, I must leave this one to God. I’m not in the position to do God’s job…none of us are. My job is this, I love God with all my heart and soul and my neighbor as myself, seek justice, love tenderly, speak of His mercy and kingdom and walk humbly with him. Finally, I must admit it was my decision to weigh in one more time but with all due respect, this is a subject of argumentative futility to which there will never be unanimous agreement. Let us speak of God’s love and redemption and refrain from the sale of fire insurance policies.
What is happening here? All of a sudden, this thread is effulgent with charity and sanity! 🙂

For what it is worth, most models “afterlife”* postulate several levels of Heaven and Hell. Though some report horrific experiences with their NDE’s the “heavenly” ones both of that and the OBE variety seem to indicate about four levels of heaven. That might be another thread, as there are some considerations surrounding that that are nothing short of fascinating.

I’ve read of a few different ideas about this, but again, my favorite statement about all that is “This is always already the ‘other’ world!”
 
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