Can one be cursed?

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I have a friend, who has for the last few years had a lot of bad luck in his life, like not being able to find a job, failing university, friends walking out on him and overall becomming a very negative person.

My friend is from a Yugoslavian background(catholic also), and he and his family believe that he has been cursed by a spell from magic by a person who hates him, which has resulted in these bad things happening in his life. He believes in God, but does not go to mass, confession, follow catholic doctrine or pray, but still says he is a catholic.

Is it possible that one can get badluck in life from being cursed by magic, can this even happen?

If he did get cursed, is it because he is not a religious person, did not pray to God and go to mass, so God could not protect him and so he let this happen to himself?.

My opionion is that he has all these problems as he is suffering from some sort of depression or other mental problem. He has always in life had a very negative personality to most things.
 
It’s possible, there are all sorts of nasty things Satan can do. I mean, the guy controlled the weather in the book of Job so I wouldn’t put this past his power. It could be a generational curse.

And his mental problems, at least I would say that they cannot control external circumstances. He may be receiving chastisement for abdicating the faith through this, but I can’t say. In my circumstances it took much hellishness to get me into the Church.

Father, I ask of you to either dispel whatever evil rests upon this individual and their family, or use it to bring them closer to you. Through Christ our Lord, Amen.
 
My opionion is that he has all these problems as he is suffering from some sort of depression or other mental problem. He has always in life had a very negative personality to most things.
I have to urge you to trust your instincts on this one.
 
Some people with a background in the former Yugoslavia have a lot to be depressed about! Depending on how close your friend is to his ancestral culture, bear in mind that people from that part of the world tend to express emotions verbally rather more than people from ‘Anglo’ cultures. Sometimes they can say things which seem quite extreme but are not intended, culturally, to be taken that way. They often find "Anglos’ a little cold in their responses. There is some research suggesting a predisposition to depression in some Mediterranean populations, so it’s always wise to be alert for that possibility. If he is depressed, get him to a doctor. It may be that some medication will sort things. You are dealing with someone from a culture that celebrates (feast days, birthdays, Easter, arrivals, departures) and puts a high value on family and recognition of relationships. look for a chance to share your events, and take part in his. Oh - and watch the drinking!
 
Extreme negativity is often a sign of depression. Depression affects our ability to think and study and remember things.Iit could result in failing school. Can you picture the job interview with a depressed very negative person? I would be more surprised if someone hired him.

People used to blame things they did not understand on demons and diabolical possesion. I was surprised to learn recently that there is still a lot of that in Eastern Europe.

I can’t believe that God who is all good can inflict evil on a person. Rather, I see evil as an absence of good. Therefore the individual who rejects God rejects good and therefore allows evil into his life. God allows evil-it is a result of free will - but He cannot Himself cause evil if He is all good.
 
Hey JABA!

Sorry to hear about your friend’s troubles. It doesn’t seem like a lot is going his way.
…but does not go to mass, confession, follow catholic doctrine or pray…
Honestly, this is the true source of his problems. If he were being a true Catholic, then even if all those hardships were to fall on him and more, he would have a strong enough faith to persevere through them.

In my humble opinion, he may be better served focusing on his spiritual life then worrying about a superstitious curse.

I hope that helps!
 
I have a friend, who has for the last few years had a lot of bad luck in his life, like not being able to find a job, failing university, friends walking out on him and overall becomming a very negative person.
My friend is from a Yugoslavian background(catholic also), and he and his family believe that he has been cursed by a spell from magic by a person who hates him, which has resulted in these bad things happening in his life. He believes in God, but does not go to mass, confession, follow catholic doctrine or pray, but still says he is a catholic.

Is it possible that one can get badluck in life from being cursed by magic, can this even happen?

If he did get cursed, is it because he is not a religious person, did not pray to God and go to mass, so God could not protect him and so he let this happen to himself?.

My opionion is that he has all these problems as he is suffering from some sort of depression or other mental problem. He has always in life had a very negative personality to most things.
It seems to me there are three separate issues here.

First you state both he and his family think he has been cursed. Is that his dependent family (wife, children) or wider family - brothers, parents, uncles etc.? If it’s the wider family, then he may be right. Therefore you might need to get a mass said for him, Maybe talk to your priest.

There also appears to be a history of depression, for which he may need clinical help ie. psychiatry and anti-depressant drugs. I was on Prozac for about ten years and that helped. However it didn’t do away with past events or persecution, which still existed. I also have reason to believe my own father had a curse put on me, and since he had authority over me as a father, then it had some effect. Sounds strange, but it happens. Obviously I haven’t got much admiration for my father, to put it mildly, although he’s dead.

The third element is his non-participation in the church. By avoiding mass, confession (and there may be unconfessed sins, or perhaps some offences by past family members which can have an effect (I go to a Catholic psychiatrist who participates in family healing masses - I’ll give a couple of examples below), he is cutting himself off from his main spiritual resource.

So there are 3 elements, and he needs to accept responsibility for a couple of them - avoiding church and not getting suitable psychiatric help.

Quoting my Catholic psychiatrist -
"I have seen many cases of people being healed of incurable illnesses, through a communion service for the healing of their family tree. These symptoms and illnesses include -
Depression, hopelessness, and suicidal thoughts…(the list continues in his booklet).
**Case 1 - Chronic fatigue. “I feel as if my body parts aren’t connected.” ** The patient’s father deserted the family, was an alcoholic derelict. He was run over by an express train, and his body was collected in several plastic bags. No family member had attended his funeral because he was so despised.
**Case 2 - Unexplained severe pain the neck about C6 level, occurring after the patient had done studies in theology. **The patient’s uncle was beheaded in Ambon by the Japanese. The patient had been the only practising Christian in the family, the only one likely to be able to say prayers for the soul of the uncle."
In each case the symptoms stopped after a healing mass was held for the deceased family member and family tree.

So that may be one solution.
 
You may read healing your family tree book or check Fr Hampsch .C.M.F. Site.Just call in and Presentation Sr screens and knowledgable.Pray Satan begone thru Most Sacred of Jesus through Immaculate Heart of Mary.Satan hates even the name of Jesus.
jMJ.(Jesus:):):):):):):signofcross::signofcross::signofcross:,MaryJoseph pray for us.
 
I might continue with the psychiatrist’s comments, in case they’re of use to anybody else.
Who are these incurable people? In my experience the people who suffer from unresolved problems in their family tree often show these characteristics:
They are naturally sensitive
They are spiritual
They are family oriented
They are motivated towards helping others
They tend to take on the burdens of other people
When we look at the suffering arising by unresolved issues in the family tree, we find it usually falls into three categories:
Suffering caused by not being loved and cared for by parents, who had too many personal problems themselves. We usually find that when we judge our parents and refuse to forgive them we bring suffering on ourselves.
Suffering caused by trying to avoid repeating the wrong behaviour of previous generations. In this case, we find that the generational sins will keep repeating down the generations, until an innocent person suffers for these sins. That is, someone becomes the Christ, and stops the transmission of these sins.
**Redemptive suffering. ** In redemptive suffering, the symptom represents the way some member of their family tree died, or an unresolved issue that some family member did not deal with before that person died.
I’ll just repeat this. An innocent person is suffering from symptoms (or behaviour) that cannot be medically explained. The symptoms (or behaviour) are medically untreatable. There is no satisfactory response to medication. Then someone looks into the family’s history. Lo and behold! there is someone who has died and the manner of that person’s death is represented by the incurable symptoms of the sufferer. And there is usually something unfinished in the life of that lost soul. Maybe it was suicide. Perhaps the lost soul was an aborted baby. Maybe the person who died had hurt the family so much that they didn’t go to his funeral.
As soon as we identify the connection between the suffering of an innocent person and the lost soul, we celebrate a communion service and draw the attention of Almighty God, the situation of this lost soul. We make whatever apologies seem appropriate. We ask God to have mercy on this soul. And sometimes the person suffering from the incurable symptoms is healed of these symptoms. Sometimes the person doing the suffering has no knowledge of the person who died. Therefore the symptom cannot be explained by the sufferer pyschologically identifying with the lost soul. We can then see that the incurable symptoms were like a signpost pointing to the needs of the lost soul for help."
To give one peculiar example which eventually came to have a literal connection with this forum, I once had my old pastor say to me (probably 20 years ago now), “I think you’ll be doing some cleaning. You won’t be doing it for long, and you won’t like it much, but I think the Lord will just want you to hear about a ghost.”

Now by that time I knew how accurate he was, but even so I thought that was ridiculous. But in 2006, I was doing some cleaning, and at an old store in Ipswich west of Brisbane, I heard about a ghost. It was a former manager who allegedly committed suicide by hanging himself (downstairs in the 1960’s I was told).

I only did the cleaning for about four months, and didn’t like it much (split shifts, 600 kilometres weekly driving to do it all, and didn’t particularly like cleaning anyway), and I heard about a ghost. Another prophetic strike to the pastor.

Eventually I got around to ringing the Ipswich priest, who said “Leave it to me.” So I did, but I wondered if he took me seriously. So was a mass said for the suicide or not? I couldn’t give any details other than what I’d been told by staff at the store, and I had no name to offer.

So as this was preying on my mind, what should happen on this forum but an associate priest from Ipswich happened to do a post, and I happened to see it. So I sent him an email, and received an assurance the mass would be said, along with a comment that in his experience such things could happen.

Now I wonder what the odds are of a pastor making a peculiar prediction like that, and my chancing on a priest from Ipswich, Australia, on this forum just to make sure the mass would be said.

You might call it co-incidence. I don’t. I think “The Lord will just want you to hear about a ghost” as my old pastor said. And he was clearly right. It took a while, but it happened, and even then God managed to create a connection with Catholic Answers Forums.
 
If it is depression, you should encourage him to seek treatment for his symptoms. Depression can cause one to loose interest in previously enjoyed activities, and damage relationships, such as with his family and the church.

Praying for him with is of course a start, but blaming Satan for a treatable illness won’t help him.
 
I My friend is from a Yugoslavian background(catholic also), and he and his family believe that he has been cursed by a spell from magic by a person who hates him, which has resulted in these bad things happening in his life. He believes in God, but does not go to mass, confession, follow catholic doctrine or pray, but still says he is a catholic.

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horse hockey, too easy to blame somebody else, or to blame God when bad things happen.

neither a curse nor a lack of devotion caused his “bad luck”
those things that were outside his control are just things that happened
those under his control are his own doing.

if he is unhappy and has a negative attitude that can be cured by returning to Mass and the sacraments, beginning with confession. Once his attitude is conformed to Christ, then the other things will fall into line. If he is more positive he will have a better chance of finding and holding a job for instance.

Most people unless they have been kidnapped and held in prison are living the life they choose. If they want to change, they have to begin with themselves. If they complacently accept what is negative, that means they approve and for whatever reason have decided to live with it. The difference is attitude. Either they embrace what constitutes suffering in union with Christ, in imitation of Christ and for love of Christ, or the spend their time bitchin’ and moanin’ and blaming everybody else for their situation.
 
You can break the curse, by offering mass for that intention.

Say, Eternal Father, I offer you all the masses that is offered throughout the world, to beg you to break this curse, and heal us all.

That works:thumbsup:
 
If your question is “Can one be cursed?”, the answer is definitely, Yes. The word curse is mentioned 178 times in the bible. Curses are real. People can be cursed.

If your question is “Is my friend cursed?”, then the answer is definitely, Maybe.
 
I guess it depends on your cultural beliefs. In Sri Lanka, Catholics are very superstitious and there is great emphasis put on the mystical and the evil supernatural. Sri Lankan Catholics believe people can curse or charm you and if you fear you are about to be/have been cursed, there are specific priests you go to see about this who have the ability to protect you 🙂

Obviously in the West we don’t tend to have those sorts of beliefs.
 
I didn’t believe in curses. My about to be ex wife’s first husband dabbled in the occult and he’s a goofball. Since his claim of cursing me, I lost 2 children to miscarriages, my wife left me on the 2nd miscarriage (she “snapped” mentally on the 2nd one and left our home with my two step kids who I adored and loved, claiming I abused her and the kids and had her father attack me with a weapon), at the same time my favorite pet of my life, my cat, got cancer and died, the vet didn’t get it, everything was normal and he. seemed fine then suddenly it came on. I had to have surgery to remove 3 discs in my neck, and just as everyone said "it can’t get any worse, I lost my job as it was sent to india. Now I face losing my house.

All this within 15 months. I never believed in curses. I have a hard time not believing in curses now. I am becoming more devoted to the church to combat. So I guess we shall see over time.
 
IMO,From what I have seen, and from what I have read (it’s downplayed allot now in the church much like exorcisms) but it is not only possible but we have documentation in the bible of people bieng cursed by god and sometimes that curse is shared by the whole family.

.Exodus 20:5-6 (RSV, as throughout) you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, [6] but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments… some people may contend that , this is an early Hebrew understanding and that it is intentionally exaggerated…but I dunno if you take that view…how do you decide which parts of the old testament is exaggerated and which isn’t ?
 
I have a friend, who has for the last few years had a lot of bad luck in his life, like not being able to find a job, failing university, friends walking out on him and overall becomming a very negative person.

My friend is from a Yugoslavian background(catholic also), and he and his family believe that he has been cursed by a spell from magic by a person who hates him, which has resulted in these bad things happening in his life. He believes in God, but does not go to mass, confession, follow catholic doctrine or pray, but still says he is a catholic.

Is it possible that one can get badluck in life from being cursed by magic, can this even happen?

If he did get cursed, is it because he is not a religious person, did not pray to God and go to mass, so God could not protect him and so he let this happen to himself?.

My opinion is that he has all these problems as he is suffering from some sort of depression or other mental problem. He has always in life had a very negative personality to most things.
I am no expert but would like to share my understanding based on personal experience. I’ve been through similar states and also seen others go through almost identical states. My study of my own problem and that of another suffering close friend, led me to understand that such tribulations are carefully monitored by God who turns Satan’s adversity into ‘Purgative’ and ‘Sanctifying Suffering’. I benefited immensely and can only cite the example of the Prodigal Son who went through hell before coming to his senses and finally attained the state of Joy. I am unsure about non-believers’ experience but I guess that turning to God in prayer is the way to converting our adversity into a blessing that transforms us. If that is done, one will also realise that with adversity one is better-off than those free from it.
 
Jesus can break the curse! There is nothing that the Lord cannot do because he has gotten the victory on the cross, paid by his blood. From that onward, it is up to us to walk with God and to leave Satan and his curses behind. In order to do that, of course we have to be close to God, to be in full communion with him everyday of our lives. Thanks God for us Catholics, we have the Sacraments for that purpose.
 
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