Can one be too far gone?

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Is it possible that someone could drift too far from the shore and never make it back? I was born into a traditional Catholic family and faith was very much encouraged, until about middle school. Then we stopped going to church and started criticizing the faith, and anyone who still participated. I really don’t remember why and no one seems to to want to discuss it. As an adult, I considered vocation. I spent time in a contemplative convent. I obviously did not go that route, but think about it everyday. I’m 35 years old now and my heart is extremely hardened, and I feel as though I have embraced evil more often and with more enthusiasm than God. Everyday a little voice inside says “go back to church” - but I feel so hard, so mean, so jaded - like I’ve gone too far in my heart to turn back now. Is that possible that I am truly “too far gone”?
 
The only thing you are too far gone from is not being reconciled. You are exactly the person that Jesus came to save. The church is not a museum for saints, but a hospital for sinners. The fact that you are here shows that you are not as hardened as you believe.

Make an appointment with priest, just to talk. Tell him what you feel and why. Just unload. It might not fix everything at once, but it will start you to healing. I’ve been there. It takes some time, but no injury heals overnight. I’ll be praying for you. Know that you are not alone and that Jesus loves you now as much as He ever has.
 
You are not too far gone because you still hear this little voice inside. There is no sin that God can’t forgive, but we first must want to make amends. Also don’t forget that if God can forgive us that means we must accept His forgivness. It is sometimes so difficult to forgive ourselves.

I suggest you meet up with a priest and discuss this. You don’t have to make your confession immediately, but ease yourself into it. I’m sure any priest would be happy to help you.
 
Absolutely not. The expression “too far gone” would only make sense in relation to someone who is so blind and hardened that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge, respond to or ask for God’s grace. Repentance and love of God are both graces from God, which draw us to the arms of our Loving Father! The hope that He alone places in our hearts does not- and indeed cannot- deceive us, provided that we are truly contrite. God is infinitely merciful (by His very nature) to those who repent.

You might appreciate these revelations:

“If your whole life has been spent in ignorance and error . . . if you have been a cause of great evil to other men, to society at large, or to religion, and if through some set of circumstances you have come to realize that you have been deceived … do not allow yourself to be crushed by the weight of your sins and of the evil of which you have been the instrument; but with a soul penetrated with deep contrition throw yourself into an abyss of confidence, and hasten to Him who awaits your return only to pardon you.” – Jesus to Sr. Josefa Menendez

“The more evil the state to which the soul is reduced by the sins of the past, by her disorders and passions, so much the more pleased is Love to have so much to accomplish in her.” - Jesus to Sr. Benigna Consolata

For more similar revelations, saint quotes and Church teachings related to God’s love and mercy, visit this link:

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/infinite-mercy-pt-1/

May God bless you and bring you peace!
 
Your story reminds me of one that I recently heard from a dear, old friend twice your age. My response to her was listen to the voice, God is calling you. Let your pride go and let God lead you back home. Be still, listen carefully, God is speaking quite clearly to you. God bless you.
 
of course not, there is nothing you could have done that God will not forgive and heaven rejoice at you returning
 
I used to worship Satan, prayed against people and tried to find a cult to join (it’s a very good thing I wasn’t good at researching online back then and that I didn’t have my own computer.) God forgave me for that and even for rejecting Him when He let me know He did love me, out of loyalty to Satan. (If any are wondering, yes, I have long since been to Confession.)
 
I think I could also be the poster child for it never being too late. I’ve never been baptized, and I never stepped foot into a church until I was 42 (I’m 43 now). My parents were agnostic/atheist and going to church, or religion in general was never on the table for discussion.

During my life I have done some shameful things. One of the most terrifying prospects, to me, was that somewhere along the line, after my RCIA classes, I’ll have to go to confession. Since I was told that it’s not necessary for me to confess things that happened prior to my (future) baptism, I felt better. From what I’ve been reading lately, it seems that confession isn’t so bad even for those who have been baptized but drifted far away.

Another thing I’ve learned is that nobody wants to punish us. We tend to do that to ourselves quite fine. Once I stopped hating on myself for things done, it freed me to get myself into church and into RCIA and onto the right path.

I hope you find some solace for yourself. If I could find it, I know you can. 🙂
 
No person is too far gone to be saved. Really, the door is always open to Christ, but we must be willing to let him back into our hearts. I know I used to think the same thing - I was too far gone to be saved, to even be forgiven - but through actively pursuing Christ, I have found that Christ is always pursuing us. Even when we are in sin, Christ is reaching out to us, seeking to welcome us back.
 
I think there are a lot of great posts on here! I will only add if it hasn’t already been mentioned that a lot of the great saints didn’t start off so holy. Maybe you could ask Saint Augustine to pray for you and help you since he didn’t have such a holy start or his mother Saint Monica who prayed for his conversion for 20 years or maybe Saint Raphael who is an Archangel responsible for healing.
 
Well, I recommend you read Luke Chapter 15. Here’s how it starts (it also includes the parable of the prodigal son).

"1 The tax collectors and sinners, however, were all crowding round to listen to him,
2 and the Pharisees and scribes complained saying, ‘This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.’

3 So he told them this parable:

4 'Which one of you with a hundred sheep, if he lost one, would fail to leave the ninety-nine in the desert and go after the missing one till he found it?
5 And when he found it, would he not joyfully take it on his shoulders
6 and then, when he got home, call together his friends and neighbours, saying to them, “Rejoice with me, I have found my sheep that was lost.”

7 In the same way, I tell you, there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner repenting than over ninety-nine upright people who have no need of repentance.

Welcome home, we all rejoice at your return.
 
Not until you’ve taken your last breath.

Years ago i read somewhere that there is a legend or theory, whatever you want to call it, that the reason Jesus took 3 hours to die was because he was waiting for Judas to come ask for forgiveness. And once Judas killed himself, it was too late to forgive him and then He died.
 
Is it possible that someone could drift too far from the shore and never make it back?

Yes, it is possible. If you look at the Bible you will see that God hardened the people’s hearts to a point of non return (e.g. the pharaoh ). However, if you read the rest of your own post you will see that it is not your case at all.

I was born into a traditional Catholic family and faith was very much encouraged, until about middle school. Then we stopped going to church and started criticizing the faith, and anyone who still participated. I really don’t remember why and no one seems to to want to discuss it. As an adult, I considered vocation. I spent time in a contemplative convent. I obviously did not go that route, but think about it everyday. I’m 35 years old now and my heart is extremely hardened, and I feel as though I have embraced evil more often and with more enthusiasm than God. Everyday a little voice inside says “go back to church” - but I feel so hard, so mean, so jaded - like I’ve gone too far in my heart to turn back now. Is that possible that I am truly “too far gone”?

When I read this, somehow I can see myself in what you describe. Now you have to start connecting your brain to your heart and you also have to start seeking God with both your brain and your heart. Do not just base your actions on how you feel but also on what is truly right. The voice that you hear inside is simply your conscience that is formed well enough to understand that you have a fundamental need and that need is intrinsically part of your human nature. Back to be in communion with God is quite easy, you just have to say I am sorry.
 
First of all, how far can you go from God?
that they might seek God and, by feeling their way towards him, succeed in finding him; although he is not far from any of us, since it is in him that we live, and move, and exist
Now perhaps you are concerned about the Church. But what is the Church?
And though we are many, we all eat from one loaf of bread, showing that we are one body.
so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
You were baptized, and in baptism you died to the world and were born of water and spirit, becoming a member of the mystical body of Christ. Brother, each of us is the Church.

Do you realize now that it is impossible to even walk a little away from the Church, much less from God? For in God we live, and His church we are. It is a mystical union tied not by men, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. Once you have been united to Christ into the Church by the power of God, there is nothing that you or any man can do to break this bond, according to the Lord’s will: “what God has joined together, let man not separate”.

Why do you worry about the past and the future? Can you do anything to change the past? Do you know if there is a future? We ought to focus on the right here, right now: “seek the kingdom first, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own”

I think you should pray more often, and let God take you by the hand and guide you. Perhaps you feel a bit like Peter sinking in the storm…and like Peter you do look: you have been always so close to Christ and so united to the Church, to the point that the Spirit even moved you to discern the possibility of consecrating your whole life to God.

No matter what has happened, Christ is right by your side. Why don’t you just follow Him when the grace of the Holy Spirit lets you hear His call? Why don’t you just walk one day into your Parrish and confess so that Christ may show you His omnipotent power? Are you afraid that perhaps the Almighty God will not forgive your little sins? That he cannot make you holy in an instant? In that case you should close your eyes and meditate on the words of the Holy Spirit:
Be still, and know that I am God

Christ waits for you, and for the longest time He has been wanting to give Himself to you in the Holy Eucharist. Look, these words seem almost as if they were spoken for you:
Do not be afraid. Even though you have done all this evil; yet do not turn away from the Lord , but serve the Lord with all your heart. For the sake of his great name the Lord will not reject his people, because the Lord was pleased to make you his own!
You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
 
Dear Friend,

Never is a heart too jaded. For example, look in the case with the Apostle Paul and what he did before he converted or however you want to put it. He was in charge of killing Jews and was in fact on his way to arrest them. I even believe that nothing is impossible with God and even Hitler would have had a change of heart if given the chance and listened to a “Heavenly voice”. So no to your question.

To me writing this post, you are somehow “reaching out” for help and I feel there is a cry for God.

Love ya’ll lots,
Sheila is my real name and :grouphug:S all around to everyone and forever.
 
Is it possible that someone could drift too far from the shore and never make it back? I was born into a traditional Catholic family and faith was very much encouraged, until about middle school. Then we stopped going to church and started criticizing the faith, and anyone who still participated. I really don’t remember why and no one seems to to want to discuss it. As an adult, I considered vocation. I spent time in a contemplative convent. I obviously did not go that route, but think about it everyday. I’m 35 years old now and my heart is extremely hardened, and I feel as though I have embraced evil more often and with more enthusiasm than God. Everyday a little voice inside says “go back to church” - but I feel so hard, so mean, so jaded - like I’ve gone too far in my heart to turn back now. Is that possible that I am truly “too far gone”?
The fact is Jesus wants everyone in heaven with him. He never shuts us out for any reason. He is the good sheperd who loves and died for each person.

However, like you said, you have drifted far away and in doing so you are very weak since contact with Jesus has been so long. So it might seem like you are talking to a stranger and have a hard time praying to him. He may seem out of distance and surreal. And it would be hard to ask forgiveness of someone you hardly know any more.

The real question to ask is not will he forgive you, but how do I make him a part of my real life and love again. How do I reestablish a relationship which has grown so cold.

If you can, I would recommend a retreat of some sort to warm you heart up since you’ve been out in the cold for so long. Since you have the desire to be forgiven, that means Jesus has already graced you to come home to him. So ask him further to renew in your heart the love you once had and pledge to him that once you find him again within you, you will never let him go.

He always answers good and persistant prayers.
 
It’s impossible to be too far gone. Remember the Prodigal Son and that our Lord came to call sinners.

Your heart may feel hardened now but if you return to Christ and His Church, you will no longer feel like that. I was in your shoes once and I thought I’d never get back. I started with the Rosary but God calls us back in myriads of different ways.

We will pray for you.
 
Is it possible that someone could drift too far from the shore and never make it back? I was born into a traditional Catholic family and faith was very much encouraged, until about middle school. Then we stopped going to church and started criticizing the faith, and anyone who still participated. I really don’t remember why and no one seems to to want to discuss it. As an adult, I considered vocation. I spent time in a contemplative convent. I obviously did not go that route, but think about it everyday. I’m 35 years old now and my heart is extremely hardened, and I feel as though I have embraced evil more often and with more enthusiasm than God. Everyday a little voice inside says “go back to church” - but I feel so hard, so mean, so jaded - like I’ve gone too far in my heart to turn back now. Is that possible that I am truly “too far gone”?
If you’re questioning your stance now, then the fact remains that you can recommit yourself to it if you “will”. But it’s up to you. And the longer you leave it, the harder it’s going to get.

I have a peculiar story to tell. I’ve often related on this forum that the night my own father died, he materialised in my bedroom, apologised for 20 years of deliberate cruelty, we argued and talked, and at the end he gave this absolutely terrifying while trying to ward something unseen off, and then just disappeared. I think he’s in hell. Incidentally I saw my Catholic psychiatrist today for our semi-annual chinwag, and he thinks I saw my father that night. The psychiatry is mainly a follow up from depression (for which my father was largely responsible).

I think my father’s in hell. The departing scream was one of absolute fear and terror. And that was 33 years ago.

However about five years before he died, I had this brief vision during a time of considerable stress and disappointment, in which “someone” said, “He’s (father) doomed! I’ve had enough of him! All he’s done all your life is humiliate (etc. etc.). And now when you need some encouragement, all he can do is make things even worse! And he’s only got about five years left to live! You’ll tell him this too! It would be better if you didn’t, since he’ll only get worse.”

Then the vision vanished.

A couple of days later we had another argument, and I blurted out the “vision”, telling him he only had five years to live. I didn’t really believe it myself, but oddly enough my father broke down. Then he snarled, “If I’m doomed, I’ll make sure I take you with me!” That was his attitude, a bit like the time when I got the equivalent of 8A’s for my Junior Exam, and his response was “I’ll make sure you don’t succeed! You’re not showing me up!”

Well that would have been around late 1973, as I’d just had a major disappointment. About a year later I moved to Perth for a few years. Anyway to cut a long story short, he died in January 1979, about five years later.

Which indicates to me two things - one is that our day of death is known, and we can go too far.

So don’t keep putting it off. Dont’ be like Pharaoh when confronted by Moses. For the first few plagues, Pharaoh hardened his heart. At the last plague, GOD hardened Pharaoh’s heart. He’d had his warnings, and it was too late. He was doomed.

I don’t think it’s too late for you. Far from it. But I wouldn’t keep pushing your luck either.
 
If you’re questioning your stance now, then the fact remains that you can recommit yourself to it if you “will”. But it’s up to you. And the longer you leave it, the harder it’s going to get.

I have a peculiar story to tell. I’ve often related on this forum that the night my own father died, he materialised in my bedroom, apologised for 20 years of deliberate cruelty, we argued and talked, and at the end he gave this absolutely terrifying while trying to ward something unseen off, and then just disappeared. I think he’s in hell. Incidentally I saw my Catholic psychiatrist today for our semi-annual chinwag, and he thinks I saw my father that night. The psychiatry is mainly a follow up from depression (for which my father was largely responsible).

I think my father’s in hell. The departing scream was one of absolute fear and terror. And that was 33 years ago.

However about five years before he died, I had this brief vision during a time of considerable stress and disappointment, in which “someone” said, “He’s (father) doomed! I’ve had enough of him! All he’s done all your life is humiliate (etc. etc.). And now when you need some encouragement, all he can do is make things even worse! And he’s only got about five years left to live! You’ll tell him this too! It would be better if you didn’t, since he’ll only get worse.”

Then the vision vanished.

A couple of days later we had another argument, and I blurted out the “vision”, telling him he only had five years to live. I didn’t really believe it myself, but oddly enough my father broke down. Then he snarled, “If I’m doomed, I’ll make sure I take you with me!” That was his attitude, a bit like the time when I got the equivalent of 8A’s for my Junior Exam, and his response was “I’ll make sure you don’t succeed! You’re not showing me up!”

Well that would have been around late 1973, as I’d just had a major disappointment. About a year later I moved to Perth for a few years. Anyway to cut a long story short, he died in January 1979, about five years later.

Which indicates to me two things - one is that our day of death is known, and we can go too far.

So don’t keep putting it off. Dont’ be like Pharaoh when confronted by Moses. For the first few plagues, Pharaoh hardened his heart. At the last plague, GOD hardened Pharaoh’s heart. He’d had his warnings, and it was too late. He was doomed.

I don’t think it’s too late for you. Far from it. But I wouldn’t keep pushing your luck either.
Amazing response/story. All of the responses so far have been great but this one really hit home for various reasons. I’m sorry for what you went through with your father. Thank you for sharing the story though. I had chills from head from toe. And the comment about pushing my luck made me laugh out loud … you couldn’t possibly know how terribly I procrastinate which made it funnier. All joking aside though, really great response and thanks for the food for thought.
 
Amazing response/story. All of the responses so far have been great but this one really hit home for various reasons. I’m sorry for what you went through with your father. Thank you for sharing the story though. I had chills from head from toe. And the comment about pushing my luck made me laugh out loud … you couldn’t possibly know how terribly I procrastinate which made it funnier. All joking aside though, really great response and thanks for the food for thought.
When it comes to procrastination, join the club. I’m an expert.
 
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