Can one get sick from the Eucharist?

[Harpazo]

Forgive me for being a bit obtuse, but I strongly believe that it is very superstitious to think that Christ will protect you from nasty bugs shared by drinking from the same cup especially during flu season. It’s a bit off the beam I think. You do understand that there is nothing scientific to support your idea?

I’m a Christian, I don’t go by “Sola scientia.”(sp?)

Why would Christ allow Himself to hurt us? You’re placing all these physical barriers around what your ecclesiastical community calls a Sacrament. I understand your concern completely, but put your faith in Christ and He won’t disappoint you. I find it hard to believe that the God of the Universe would allow us to get sick from doing what He commanded us to do.

Alaha minokhoun
Andrew

 

[Namesake]

I’m a Christian, I don’t go by “Sola scientia.”(sp?)

Why would Christ allow Himself to hurt us? You’re placing all these physical barriers around what your ecclesiastical community calls a Sacrament. I understand your concern completely, but put your faith in Christ and He won’t disappoint you. I find it hard to believe that the God of the Universe would allow us to get sick from doing what He commanded us to do.

Alaha minokhoun
Andrew

Well, first of all, there is no physical change whatsoever in the wine. Nothing is changed physically. It’s superstition to believe that you can drink out of a contaminated cup because somehow Jesus is there to protect you. You might as well drink blessed pond water and believe that you are protected. It’s absurd at best.

Just because you might happen to believe in guardian angels don’t test it by jumping in front of a bus.

 

[Harpazo]

Well, first of all, there is no physical change whatsoever in the wine. Nothing is changed physically. It’s superstition to believe that you can drink out of a contaminated cup because somehow Jesus is there to protect you. You might as well drink blessed pond water and believe that you are protected. It’s absurd at best.

Just because you might happen to believe in guardian angels don’t test it by jumping in front of a bus.

You don’t think Christ could protect you? Interesting…

Alaha minokhoun
Andrew

 

[holdencaulfield]

Oh my goodness sakes. Do you mean that we should disregard public health science because people have died for Christian beliefs? I cannot believe you mean that! Should we also ignore the fact that we have all sorts of medical information that gives us longer healthier lives? You have got to be kidding?!?!

No, we should not. However I do not think many other Catholics would say they would not drink from the same Cup as the Pope?

 

[holdencaulfield]

Protestants as well as a whole bunch of Catholics don’t believe that the Eucharist IS Christ.

aka a heretic. Look, this thread doesn’t even have anything to do with that. We were discussing weather one could get sick or not. Please stay one topic.

 

[holdencaulfield]

I’m a Christian, I don’t go by “Sola scientia.”(sp?)

Why would Christ allow Himself to hurt us? You’re placing all these physical barriers around what your ecclesiastical community calls a Sacrament. I understand your concern completely, but put your faith in Christ and He won’t disappoint you. I find it hard to believe that the God of the Universe would allow us to get sick from doing what He commanded us to do.

Alaha minokhoun
Andrew

I agree as well. And you know what, who cares. We should suffer for our faith.

 

[holdencaulfield]

Well, first of all, there is no physical change whatsoever in the wine. Nothing is changed physically. It’s superstition to believe that you can drink out of a contaminated cup because somehow Jesus is there to protect you. You might as well drink blessed pond water and believe that you are protected. It’s absurd at best.

Seriously your profile is Protestant, but right now you don’t even sound Christian. Anything blessed will protect us.

 

[Namesake]

aka a heretic. Look, this thread doesn’t even have anything to do with that. We were discussing weather one could get sick or not. Please stay one topic.

OK, you are quite correct.

The deal is that the wine has not actually changed. It’s still wine. Various microorganisms can grow well in wine. But more to the point, the bugs get on the chalice. There isn’t anything particularly special about the metal cup that will prevent transmission of those bugs. It’s ridiculously superstitious to think that because of transubstantiation, which isn’t at all science, people will be protected against disease transmission. It’s really impossible to believe that>

 

[Namesake]

I agree as well. And you know what, who cares. We should suffer for our faith.

Not needlessly. You ought not go looking for it.

 

[joeybaggz]

“It’s superstition to believe that you can drink out of a contaminated cup because somehow Jesus is there to protect you.”

It’s superstitious to believe your dead daughter is just sleeping because a Carpenter said so. Ask Jairus

It’s superstitious to believe your servant could be cured just because a Carpenter said so. Ask a centurion

It’s superstitious to believe a fish would have a coin in its mouth just because a Carpenter said so. Ask the disciples

It’s superstitious to believe two fish and five loaves could feed five thousand people just because a Carpenter said so. Ask those five thousand

It’s superstitious to believe that a man who had been dead for four days would walk out of a tomb because a Carpenter said so. Ask Lazarus.

It’s superstitious to believe a dead man would come back from the dead because a Carpenter said so. Ask Thomas

It’s superstitious to believe that a severed appendage could be reattached at the command of a Carpenter. Ask Malchus

Superstition, is that a Protestant synonym for the word faith?

Just wondering. I couldn’t find a single out of context bible passage I could throw at a preconceived idea just to prove what I want to believe.

 

[joeybaggz]

It’s ridiculously superstitious to think that because of transubstantiation, which isn’t at all science, people will be protected against disease transmission. It’s really impossible to believe that>

Based on the infallible pronouncements of the Lord High God known as Science, it’s really impossible to believe anything Christ said or did. Of course us silly Catholics still hold onto such childish notions as fai … aahhh, forget it.

 

[fbl9]

I agree as well. And you know what, who cares. We should suffer for our faith.

…i do care it is the will of our Lord… there are many catholics who feel one could pass disease on or catch a disease.it is Him who i drink and eat.God cares fro the birds of the air,how much more does He care for you.

 

[Namesake]

“It’s superstition to believe that you can drink out of a contaminated cup because somehow Jesus is there to protect you.”

It’s superstitious to believe your dead daughter is just sleeping because a Carpenter said so. Ask Jairus

It’s superstitious to believe your servant could be cured just because a Carpenter said so. Ask a centurion

It’s superstitious to believe a fish would have a coin in its mouth just because a Carpenter said so. Ask the disciples

It’s superstitious to believe two fish and five loaves could feed five thousand people just because a Carpenter said so. Ask those five thousand

It’s superstitious to believe that a man who had been dead for four days would walk out of a tomb because a Carpenter said so. Ask Lazarus.

It’s superstitious to believe a dead man would come back from the dead because a Carpenter said so. Ask Thomas

It’s superstitious to believe that a severed appendage could be reattached at the command of a Carpenter. Ask Malchus

Superstition, is that a Protestant synonym for the word faith?

Just wondering. I couldn’t find a single out of context bible passage I could throw at a preconceived idea just to prove what I want to believe.

But it is superstitious to think that transubstantiation will protect you from microorganisms on a cup. It’s just plain silly in fact.

If the person ahead of you clearly was ill and drooled in the cup…then what would you do? If someone who was clearly ill sneezed on the host, what would you do then?

I think I know the answer. You would trust Jesus to protect you, right? Good luck pilgrim. It’s flu season and you maybe should be a little on the look out for your own well being. I doubt that Jesus really cares if you get the flu. He has more important things to tend to.

 

[fbl9]

nameaske… yeah He does need to care for His sheep

 

[Namesake]

nameaske… yeah He does need to care for His sheep

So then why is flu such a problem right now? I mean if He cares and protects us from flu on the cup, why do so many people have influenza right now?

 

[fbl9]

So then why is flu such a problem right now? I mean if He cares and protects us from flu on the cup, why do so many people have influenza right now?

not a problem here. and the people said your ways are not just.when a catholic suffers anything we in our own preistly role can offer this suffering to God in and through our Lord’s sacrifice on the cross.only for God’s greater glory.when troubles befall one give glory to God don’t put on a long face like the scribes and such.giving God glory in adversity is akin to slapping the face of the source of which is bad.God allows what God allows.

 

[Gibberwock]

It should be pointed out that when we come into contact with bacteria, germs, etc. during the process of drinking from the chalice, it is not Christ who may hurt us, but those same bacteria, germs, etc. Regardless of what you believe about the possibility of getting sick from drinking the Precious Blood after others, you must understand that the rim of the chalice will be contaminated by any germs the person ahead of you may have been carrying around. Please do not assume that no one can get sick by sharing the cup; many people who go to mass are old or in poor health and contracting a sickness could be fatal for them.

When one partakes of the Body of Christ under the appearance of bread, one partakes of the full body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Lord. If you’ve a cough or some other potentially transmittable malady, you won’t be missing anything by passing up the cup and only receiving under the appearance of bread.

 

[Seminarian_X]

I would, then how do you drink it?

I don’t. Drinking after someone, which necessarily requires ingesting the particles and bacteria and what not of whatever is in that person’s mouth and has fallen back into the cup, is asking for trouble. Ever heard of back wash?

Revolting.

 

[Phemie]

This is why one should make it a practice to never drink after anyone.

Myself, I wouldn’t drink after the Pope himself.

So as a priest you’d never concelebrate??

 

[Seminarian_X]

So as a priest you’d never concelebrate??

There’s a lot of ground to cover between here and there. My objections to concelebration are reasonably sound, I believe. Speaking from a personal spiritual standpoint, not pointing fingers at anyone. And backwash is the least of my concern in that area.