Can praying for the dead be a sin?

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We can pray for the dead right?
But what if the person we are praying for is not in Purgatory?
If we pray for them, but they are In The Kingdom, what are we praying for? Do they need those prayers?
What if they didn’t make it? and we pray for them? what happens to our prayers then?

We don’t know where they are right?
 
As I recall we were taught that, if the person we pray for cannot benefit from the prayers, God will accept them on behalf of someone who will benefit. No prayer goes to waste.
 
No, it can’t be a sin, because there is no intent to harm and no harm can come from it. We don’t know WHO is in Haven or purgatory; we trust our prayers in God to get them to where they’re most needed!
 
We can pray for the dead right?
But what if the person we are praying for is not in Purgatory?
If we pray for them, but they are In The Kingdom, what are we praying for? Do they need those prayers?
What if they didn’t make it? and we pray for them? what happens to our prayers then?
What we are praying to God for, I hope, is the He will have mercy on them. That can only be good.
 
Yes we can and should pray for the dead. Read 2 Maccabees, Chapter 12. Also there are several approved prayers to release souls from Purgatory.
 
Yes that is what i heard that all prayer is not wasted and goes for another soul or souls who are in prgatory if the person being prayed for is in heaven . I add to my prayers for any other of my family Lord may you except this prayer,meaning if the person I am actually praying for is in heaven.:)🙂
 
This is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about it:
958 Communion with the dead. “In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and ‘because it is a holy and a wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins’ she offers her suffrages for them.” Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.
 
We can pray for many things that have already happened or are happening. We could pray for the well-being of someone, perhaps our partents or other family members, as people frequently do, when God has already heard and is already answering such a prayer for this. I am sure an endless list of examples of such a thing could be given. Such prayers are good, not wrong.
People have also begun asking here about the merit of the practice of praying for the dead. The sBible shows people praying for the dead approvingly. This is in one of the book of Maccabees, I believe in the first one. I don’t have the exact citations here, but if this seems important, someone else will not doubt provide them.
 
We just went through Devine Mercy Sunday and this is all about praying for souls who needs God’s mercy, alive and dead. God is timeless and in the afterlife there is no time as we know it here on Earth. God can take our prayers for a person and apply that mercy to them no matter when they lived. As a convert I figure I have over 400 years of ancestors who fell out of the Catholic faith by order of the King/Queen of England and who really need me to pray for them. All of the dearly departed need our assistance to pray for them, because they can’t do it themselves anymore.

Pray for souls constantly, and it will be a great blessing to you at some time, and try not to think what’s in it for me. It’s all about doing Christ’s work here while we can, and helping to save souls is the big, great thing to be in on.
 
I believe that praying for the dead is OK, but praying directly to the dead is not. I think that I could ask Jesus to pass on a message and ask Him for an answer. However, these are only my opinions and I would always like to end up with authoritative answers. No doubt that we can seek answers from the Bible and from the catechism, but from this website how do I obtain a definitive answer to any thread. Does anybody responsible for offering this service ensure that opinions expressed by those posting are followed by the truth? Please do not imagine that this is meant to be a criticism. I would just like to end up with more than opinions after following a thread. Blessings. R <><
 
Julian 0404 already provided the location of the Book and Chapter - *2 Macabees:12 *, in post # 5.

The most pertinent part goes like this:

**2 Macabees 12:45 **

It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins

As already stated by Joe Kelly , our prayers for someone (who has died and) who was no longer in need of them (either already in Heaven … or sadly, already in Hell ) would be applied to another soul(s) who in turn would be forever grateful for them. Every prayer said for the dearly departed has value in God’s eyes*, and no one wants souls to get to Heaven more than He does. We can have no greater proof of this than that of His own Crucifixion.

As members have previously posted, in the case of praying for the dead, some of what we *don’t *know counts almost as much as what we do know. We don’t know about everyone who is in Heaven, but we do know it is good to pray for those who have died. So it could never be a sin to pray for the spiritual well-being of one who is departed ; this is an act of charity. Definitive knowledge of whether they are in a position to directly benefit from our prayers is best left to the discretion of God.

At every single Mass, the Church also prays for the departed (there is a provision of intercession for those who have died in each of the 4 main Eucharistic Prayers).
  • {This “value” involves “merit” and can’t be totally disconnected from “merit” - which is sometimes defined this way : “In the concrete, merit may be defined as a good work freely performed in favor of another and of its nature deserving of reward.” saints.sqpn.com/ncd05294.htm}
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No doubt that we can seek answers from the Bible and from the catechism, but from this website how do I obtain a definitive answer to any thread. Does anybody responsible for offering this service ensure that opinions expressed by those posting are followed by the truth? Please do not imagine that this is meant to be a criticism. I would just like to end up with more than opinions after following a thread. Blessings. R <><
This is the discussion portion of the forum. Posts here are not monitored for fidelity to Church teaching. If you would like a more definitive answer, post on the Ask An Apologist forum.

Betsy
 
Hi there,

we are allowed to pray for the dead, its considered good to actually 🙂

Jesus isnt going to be angry becasue we want someone to go to heaven, he wants us to want other people to go to heave, he wants everyone to go to heaven, so i think he will be really pleased to see us helping people on the way 😃
 
When I pass a cross or wreath alongside the road as I’m driving by, I pray for the people who are remembered there.
 
Praying for the dead is a spiritual work of mercy! … certainly not a sin.

First of all, we do not know where a person goes when they die (Heaven, hell, or Purgatory). God is the sole judge, and no matter how well we know a person – only God knows the whole picture of the state of that person’s soul. We are not God. Duh!

Second of all, no prayers are wasted. If the person we are praying for cannot use our prayers – either because they are already in Heaven of hell – then God will apply them to someone who can. Remember…God is infinitely merciful!👍
 
=Angel7;6539137]We can pray for the dead right?
But what if the person we are praying for is not in Purgatory?
If we pray for them, but they are In The Kingdom, what are we praying for? Do they need those prayers?
What if they didn’t make it? and we pray for them? what happens to our prayers then?
We don’t know where they are right?
Trust in God NEVER to waste a "good action."
 
I believe that praying for the dead is OK, but praying directly to the dead is not. I think that I could ask Jesus to pass on a message and ask Him for an answer. However, these are only my opinions and I would always like to end up with authoritative answers. No doubt that we can seek answers from the Bible and from the catechism, but from this website how do I obtain a definitive answer to any thread. Does anybody responsible for offering this service ensure that opinions expressed by those posting are followed by the truth? Please do not imagine that this is meant to be a criticism. I would just like to end up with more than opinions after following a thread. Blessings. R <><
Praying for the dead is a Holy thing to do, and praying to the dead is Holy too.
They can and do intercede for us and many miracles have occurred because of their prayers for us.When we pray ‘to’ a person, we are basically asking them to pray for us or for someone we know and love.
I agree with you 100% that someone responsible for offering this service needs to correct some erroneous opinions. They are misleading and certainly do not help non-Catholics and poorly informed Catholics, understand our faith properly. This is a Catholic forum and should always reflect Faithful Catholic Teaching. God Bless, Memaw
 
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