Your burden is first to make a creditable case that Catholics are “saved”. Many Protestants don’t think that they are. How do you reconcile that apparent problem?
What problem? That protestants don’t think we “are saved” We know they are wrong.
Good point. Also the catholic church doctrine is deemed to be truth.
How do you know that your claim to salvation is any more plausible than anyone else’s?Even Christianity is a young religion, which sits in the midst of many competitors. Since your “proof” relies on faith, then how can your assertion be “more valid” than another’s?
I’m not, but odds are, when one man separates from the whole and claims an interpretation different from the whole - he’s the one who’s wrong, until proven otherwise. Of course, one could claim that about Jesus, except Jesus claimed divinity; I don’t think Martin ever did.
Dear lady, you are really off the mark, and need to do some homework on this. That is NOT the teaching of the Church regarding invincible ignorance.May we please have a written and documented source for your claim? I doubt you’ll find it anywhere in Catholicism.
I disagree with your claim that one who disagrees with a larger group is probably wrong. I would rather think that an individual’s decision should be evaluated on the merits of her reasons.
Our proof for Christianity, and even though Syro and I disagree on theology, I think he would echo my view here, is not on “faith,” but on actual historical events.
But, you accept on faith that among the many prophets born of a virgin (a very popular concept during Jesus’ time), that Jesus is different from the others. We can surmise that this claim was not considered remarkable contemporaneously, as there is no mention of it in any historic record which has survived.
Source for this?
Except for the New Testament, which happens to be the most accurate historical record from the time period, that we possess today.
No it isn’t difficult. Even if it were, no, I wouldn’t rely primarily on the Bible because I don’t have to. The NT record is corrorborated nicely from other secular sources.
No more so than any other worldview is an act of faith.
Well, relative to discussions between Catholics and Protestants, it should not be an issue of salvation. I realize that some Protestants and some Catholics do hold the view that the other is not. It is, however, a minority position in both groups.
I wasn’t referring to differences in view on certain theological points. While we differ on some particulars, we do not as to the identify of Who we put our trust in and Whom we worship and adore.
I think you are just not reading and you are skipping things based on your biased vision. The principal doctrine of the church is that there is NO salvation outside of the catholic church. Conscious or not conscious there is no salvation outside the church. Many dont like it but that is the doctrine. And it is dogma constantly repeated by the church over centuries. If your positiom is that you can achieve salvation through other means you arevwrong because the catholic church specifically states that their teachings are right and truth and there is no salvation outside it. The other links were not about original sin. You obviously did not read. Is about the fact that there is NO salvation outside the church. Original sin just adds to the fact that someone outside the church will have even further impossibility to salvation for someone outside the church. Invincible ignorance is the only exception to that rule. Invincible ignorance means that someone who is truly unaware of god’s requirements mat be relieved of responsibility. Invincible ignorace yes may cause your mind to err but but you have to do reasonable diligence. If you don’t you don’t get relieved from responsibility. Very few people will actually get saved due to this and the quotes I have you from saints and popes are very clear that very rarely someone will get saved by invincible ignorance.
Like finding a needle in a hay stack I have never ever met a pastor that has not remarried a couple
Jesus, god founded the Catholic Church
It is very sad to find such rigidity in this thread against the true teachings of the Catholic Church - teachings that cling to private interpretation and further the rift to prevent others from ever desiring to enter the Church. Preaching damnation as though God only saves Catholics who are within the RCC. I am ashamed to see this attitude and false teaching here at CAF! I see that it is futile to make any attempts at rebuttal! This is how outsiders see Catholics.