Can Religious Orders get away with more?

[James0235]

I don’t mean get away with doing anything bad. I mean does it seem to anyone else that parishes that are staffed by priests from religious orders tend to be WAY more orthodox? One parish locally comes to mind :no EMHC, good music, communion giving on the tongue while kneeling, etc. I have noticed similar things in other dioceses in the parishes staffed by religious. Is this just a coincidence or has anyone else noticed this? Is it becasue there is less interference from the bishop?

James

 

[Deacon_Tony560]

It depends on the religious order. Our neighboring parish is staffed by a religious order of St. Joseph and they pretty much have the same customs as the diocese at large. Traditions (Small “t”) can vary.

Don’t look for a sign, be a sign!

 

[T.A.Stobie_SFO]

A lot of it varies by the Order Superior and the local Bishop.

Order priests who serve parishes still must answer to the Bishop for their pastural responsibilities. They also have to answer to their Superiors. Normally this means that they have to be more obedient to the teachings of the Church.

 

[Mike_C]

Yes, the Benedictines were the vanguard of the Liturgical renewal thing, both here and in Europe (as early as just after WWII), I remember going to summer camp in N. Jersey in 1960. One Sunday, a Benedictine monk from the nearby Benedictine monastery celebrated a “missa recita” which was unheard of in this country at that time. We all had cards like at Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament. The prayers were in Latin, but there was phonetic pronunciation below. So, there was the line: “Dominus vobiscum”.
“Doe me noos vo bees cum.” So people were able to participate more fully in the Mass. There were hand missals in those days with Latin on one side and English on the other.

It seems the Jesuits are more liberal than other orders too. On the other hand the Mercedarians are more conservative. I guess the Franciscans and the Capuchins vary from province to province. The same for the Dominicans.

 

[JMJ31]

From my own personal experience - where ever you can find a parish that have religious priests - give them a try and support them !!!

I know that there are many, many, many good secular priests— but------my parish just lost our Franciscans and it seems that there is a tremendous loss of spirituality and it’s been replaced with excessive materialism.

Most Religious Orders take the vow of poverty - in today’s world that seems to me - a much greater commitment to God.

 

[Karl_M]

Not so fast…

There is one parish in my town staffed by a religious order and it is way out in left field.

I could go on and on about possibly invalid Hosts, no water in the wine, no washing of the hands, and changing the Eucharistic Prayer. Or I could go on and on about the priest never wearing a roman collar, and only wearing his robe during a Mass he’s celebrating-or the brother leaving during Mass, coming back during the Eucharist, and then encouraging applause 1. For the Mass itself, 2. For the Choir, 3. For any visitors (that’s three times per Mass, every time.)

OK, so religious orders aren’t always the answer. In fact, if you are particularly crafty, you can find them in several online articles, including one where the priest proudly boasts how popular they are because they don’t wear their robes.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

Some religious orders of women get away with more in the masses in their monasteries unless the chaplain is willing to stand up for orthodox liturgies. I have seen abuses such as a sister holding up the bread and chalice for the prayer over the gifts, non-Catholics invited to receive Communion, the word “God” substituted for ‘Him’, and people or human substituted for men or man.