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Julia_Mae
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If we are going to try and have this discussion without the thread getting locked, perhaps we could leave off the insults to others’ beliefs and just address the topic?Transcendence is absolute rubbish -
But we have done this continually through history, because “physical laws” are written by us and they change as we learn more. In highschool, we were shown a paper written at the time the steam engine was invented that proved scientifically that if a human traveled faster than 30mph, he would explode. Or implode, I can’t recall.we operate entirely within nature, and we cannot do that which is impossible according to physical laws.
Dinosaurs lived in water because physics proved that they could not support their bodyweight on land.
Padre Pio and others bilocated and healings with tissue growth that science says is impossible to achieve in the time observed have been thoroughly documented. Physical laws do not define or limit reality, they just attempt to define, explain and predict.
That we predict imperfectly, doesn’t mean we don’t do it exceptionally well relative to how well we did it 100 years ago. Jesus could control the weather, some Saints have shown the ability in limited ways, but, look what they had to do in order to achieve the knowledge necessary.Cold fusion, anyone? Only consider our utterly imperfect ability to predict the weather, for example, and our absolute lack of ability to control it - if we were actually transcendent over nature, rather than supremely talented manipulators of nature, wouldn’t we have figured out how to do these things by now?
Also, “by now” indicates you think we have come a long way in terms of science. Science, the way we define it now, has only been defined that way for about the last 100 years. We are infants. And the last thing we need to be able to do is control the weather - what a global disaster that would be.
We already knew how to NOT pollute the oceans and air so badly we are threatening our own existence and that of an untold numbers of creatures, but we did it, anyway. Humanity simply cannot be trusted with too much information. A point on which I think you and I agree.