…you are…twisting my words…Are you saying…He might have mercy and allow a child to enter the kingdom of heaven when that child has not been baptised, therefore that is a reason and excuse for women to abort?..So if women use this as an excuse…that bolsters your theological argument? . …How dare you suggest that I support abortion…
Dear Tally Catholic:
Are you on the side of one whom does not both fear and love God. Children, angels, perhaps some dead, and those of course, rare as it might be purely even in a pantheistic religion may not fear God.
I have no idea, which words of yours you think that I somehow twisted around. You’ll have to find a way to be more specific.
I am in no way saying, suggesting, or even implying that you are Pro-Abortion, or Pro-Death, and you already were thanked and appreciated for your sensitivity to those, such as myself that have experienced the loss of a child, and the reminder it is up to God’s mercy: whom is saved, and whom is not saved.
Those seemingly innocent condemned to Hell is a difficult situation to comprehend, even the sort of Hell that would exist as a place for natural happiness, without any suffering; nonetheless, how can it be otherwise: given no opportunity for a supernatural happiness, and your “so what” attitude toward those women who do use the arugement, very adroitly, to abort children, which you label “stupid” is deplorable. It reasonably is established, and can be furthered that one obstacle to the Pro-Life movement is the refutation of scientifically validated human life, as conceived at the moment of conception.
Pro-Abortionists and others, deny human life can be proven as conceived at the time of conception, and the issue to them is one again many say, which must be proven in theological terms: when from a theological point of view, does human life begin?
The soul has characteristics of intelligence, and of what else: freewill, and immortality and hence, this in many respects defines humanity and therefore, since this is a substantial portion of the meaning behind the word “human”; what can we now say, human life begins at conception? The freewill, the intelligence, and the immortality of the soul are present?
Now we see that man and animal are in fact two substances, which never truly can be classified under the same genus, mammal. If we are to argue as many do, man is an animal, then we have to deny that validity of a theological arguement required by many Planned Parenthood, and Pro-Death supporters, and limit strictly the arguements only to human life as defined, in the same manner as all other animal life, correct?
However, when we argue that human life must be characterized by possession of a soul; therefore, to gain credibility in the realm of an unbiased scientific investigation–we need evidence: measureable facts, at the point of conception, of human life; it would seem reasonable at least to assume as much as this.
My point in the Pro-Life position is to say, human life is of such value that alone to it is salvation possible and therefore, human life must be given a right to life for the benefit of it being provided opportunities to be saved. You and I while alive according to some paragraphs in the CCC have no idea that we are saved, and we are living, with many opportunities even perhaps after Baptism, as it does stand for myself and therefore, apart from Original Sin, free from Original Sin; we can reference God’s infinite mercy to the unborn; though in Original Sin, and what fairness to them would it be that they without an opportunity should be condemned to Hell, though, without any suffering to experience in Hell, and we can say, the matter is open to speculation.
Can we detract from the importance of human life, in possession of a soul, the opportunities afforded to it by life with such speculation? Should we? Condemnation of a soul to Hell as a matter of God’s Judgement is final. The Devil is clever in all efforts to destroy souls, and the demons roam the earth to ruin souls: convince a woman of her right to murder her own child, and one soul, the Mother’s might be saved, though not by means of murdering ones own child, but the child’s life–saved?
Adam lost the image of God for all human kind, for his wife, his children, and every subsequent generation; additionally, even with hope of salvation: The Flood destroyed the earth to the exclusion of whom God placed on The Ark.
Malachi Martin in an interview within The Latin Mass magazine, recorded as well, said, the terror of abortion is in the loss of souls to God’s Kingdom, God the Father knows: they are out of reach! He was saying. Catholicism often is uncomfortable. There is no need for a Catholic to be lukewarm.
Most sincerely,
Kristopher
