Can the Holy Spirit "dwell" in a person that is in a state of mortal sin?

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I am attempting to move this conversation from Apologetics/Sacred Scripture to here…The original thread is forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=541518 .

This is my last post on that thread and I want to see where I stand in relation to the Church’s teaching, if there is one.
shocktrooper said:
I want to layout the points of agreement here so that the conversation can become more clear…

1- God’s presence (Trinity) exists in all creation, human, animal, everything, or it would seize to exist.
2- God’s sustaining presence (Trinity) in point 1 does not merit us salvation, just existence.
3- We receive the Holy Spirit (Trinity) in a sanctifying and more efficacious way at baptism.
4- Mortal sin severs the relationship, in point 3, with God (Trinity). The sanctifying “presence” of the Holy Spirit is no longer present in our soul.
5- Proper confession restores the relationship, in point 3, with God (Trinity). The sanctifying “presence” of the Holy Spirit is now present in our soul.

The distinction that needs to be made is to what degree God is present to us depending on our state of grace or lack thereof. God is only present to His creation in a way that we would not exist without Him. The Holy Spirit comes down and enters a baptized person from without (the dial on the furnace is not turn up, causing the flame to grow more), meaning that His presence, in what we speak of here, was not already there.

Is this statement more agreeable to everyone commenting…
The presence of God is in all creation only in a way that we would seize to exist without His presence, and not as pantheist believe. Upon baptism, the Holy Spirit (Trinity) takes refuge in our soul and “dwells” or “communes” with us while in a state of grace. When mortal sin is committed, the Holy Spirit no longer takes residence within us, thus no longer “dwelling” within us in a substantial and sanctifying way, but only in the way He did prior to baptism . The sanctifying presence of God seizes to exist within a person in the state of mortal sin, which is the state in which man “severs” his relationship with God and can no longer be a tabernacle of Him who is Holy. This does not deny God the ability to move us to reconciliation from without, nor does it deny God’s eternal love for us, nor does it mean that God withdraws from us completely, causing us to not exist anymore.
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One who is in a state of Mortal sin does not have the Holy Spirit “dwelling” within them–such is a term used for one in a State of Grace.

Such is different then the Presence of God in other modes.
 
Bookcat said:
One who is in a state of Mortal sin does not have the Holy Spirit “dwelling” within them–such is a term used for one in a State of Grace.

Such is different then the Presence of God in other modes.
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Bookcat, you make it sound so simple. Thank you for your answer and for those you have provided me in the past.

May God continue to bless you!
 
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