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Although am most familiar with Augustine and Ignatius. 
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Edit: contemplation would be part of all spiritualities.Ok, this is what I was aiming for. So my question is, how does Carmelite spirituality in this instance differ from (say) Ignatian spirituality, if the person is a lay person who isn’t a Lay Carmelite? Ignatian spirituality (like every spirituality I would hope!) emphasizes prayer, contemplation is certainly a part of it (and probably all spiritualities to an extent), and seeking the face of God in the heart of the world sounds a lot like “finding God in all things”.
Anyone who doesn’t care for the poor isn’t living as a Catholic, nevermind Franciscan. Same for Evangelization. If anyone isn’t concerned for the liturgy, how can they call themselves Catholic (yes, Benedictines live communally centered around the Liturgy of the Hours and the Mass. Not sure how it is with Oblates)? So certainly how one lives, especially being part of a religious order (like some follow the Rule of St. Augustine), impacts one’s spirituality, yet there has to be more. FOr instance, I read the famous interview Pope Francis gave and he said one aspect of Ignatian spirituality influencing his pontificate is “discernment”. What makes that specifically Ignatian? Or even the spiritual exercises are a gift to the Church (from an Encyclical by Pius XI IIRC) and the Dominican’s rosary is as well.
I’m confused and desire clarification.
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Could it be that people who follow one type of spirituality view everything as centering around what it is that makes that spirituality unique? So a person predominantly influenced by Ignatian spirituality views reality with everything pointing back to the glory of God, a person influenced by Franciscan views life with everything pointing back to Christ poor, etc. Am I making sense? Or is this off base?Ok, this is what I was aiming for. So my question is, how does Carmelite spirituality in this instance differ from (say) Ignatian spirituality, if the person is a lay person who isn’t a Lay Carmelite? Ignatian spirituality (like every spirituality I would hope!) emphasizes prayer, contemplation is certainly a part of it (and probably all spiritualities to an extent), and seeking the face of God in the heart of the world sounds a lot like “finding God in all things”.
Anyone who doesn’t care for the poor isn’t living as a Catholic, nevermind Franciscan. Same for Evangelization. If anyone isn’t concerned for the liturgy, how can they call themselves Catholic (yes, Benedictines live communally centered around the Liturgy of the Hours and the Mass. Not sure how it is with Oblates)? So certainly how one lives, especially being part of a religious order (like some follow the Rule of St. Augustine), impacts one’s spirituality, yet there has to be more. FOr instance, I read the famous interview Pope Francis gave and he said one aspect of Ignatian spirituality influencing his pontificate is “discernment”. What makes that specifically Ignatian? Or even the spiritual exercises are a gift to the Church (from an Encyclical by Pius XI IIRC) and the Dominican’s rosary is as well.
I’m confused and desire clarification.
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I’ve found that almost all of the Catholic organizations and groups that I’ve encountered (retreats, young adult groups, etc.) have some connection to one of the many spiritualities: Ignatian, Franciscan, Opus Dei, Dominican, Benedictine, etc. I’m very grateful that I have been able to encounter so many in just a few years of being in the Church.
I have been drawn to Carmelite spirituality (St. Teresa of Avila was very nearly my confirmation saint), though I haven’t encountered too many Carmelites (religious or non-religious laypeople) since the brown scapular enrollment Mass I went to a few years ago (that was wonderful though!). And, although I don’t see myself as an Ignatian per se, discernment has been a recurring theme in my life in recent years. In the end, although most non-religious lay people do not officially practice any particular spirituality, perhaps some of us are called to do so (e.g.- Third Orders, devotion to certain saints, practices such as the Spiritual Exercises, etc.), while others encounter a variety in accordance to their spiritual needs at any particular point in life.
I have been drawn to Carmelite spirituality (St. Teresa of Avila was very nearly my confirmation saint), though I haven’t encountered too many Carmelites (religious or non-religious laypeople) since the brown scapular enrollment Mass I went to a few years ago (that was wonderful though!). And, although I don’t see myself as an Ignatian per se, discernment has been a recurring theme in my life in recent years. In the end, although most non-religious lay people do not officially practice any particular spirituality, perhaps some of us are called to do so (e.g.- Third Orders, devotion to certain saints, practices such as the Spiritual Exercises, etc.), while others encounter a variety in accordance to their spiritual needs at any particular point in life.
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