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Believe me, its always one of the two, no person could possibly deny that it happened. Should we also deny Pearl Harbor? Or Hiroshima? Or 911?
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You, of all people, should know that I’ve written a paper on my blog utterly debunking that Shoah denier by the name of Thomas Dalton.
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Mary888
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My great grandmother’s sister was married to a Jewish man. When the national guards came to list him, or just check up on him, she went insane. After the war he stayed with her even though she was an old woman outside her wits. When she passed away he moved to Israel. His name was Uri.
When I was a pre-school girl I had a Greek nanny. She told us one afternoon that when the Germans came to Greece they arrested all Greeks who opposed them and Jews. The Greeks would go to prison. The Jews were treated more nucely apparently, she said. They were sent to better prisons. When they went to the bathrooms gas would come out instead or water. I remember that evening I was afraid to turn on the shower to wash. The old nanny came and hugged me and said she is sorry for telling me these stories. I won’t be gased.
These things she told me before anything like the movie Schindler’s List. She was not Jewish and neither am I.
I am from Romania. In Eastern Europe and in Europe all around, if people want to hear the truth about it they can.
May God illumine you on this one.
God bless.
When I was a pre-school girl I had a Greek nanny. She told us one afternoon that when the Germans came to Greece they arrested all Greeks who opposed them and Jews. The Greeks would go to prison. The Jews were treated more nucely apparently, she said. They were sent to better prisons. When they went to the bathrooms gas would come out instead or water. I remember that evening I was afraid to turn on the shower to wash. The old nanny came and hugged me and said she is sorry for telling me these stories. I won’t be gased.
These things she told me before anything like the movie Schindler’s List. She was not Jewish and neither am I.
I am from Romania. In Eastern Europe and in Europe all around, if people want to hear the truth about it they can.
May God illumine you on this one.
God bless.
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@Zealot, I hope you quit these remarks against the Holocaust. Deal with it, it happened. Are you guilty? Are you a Hitler fanatic? I’, sick of you people, go rot in the deepest pits of hell with Hitler if you’re a Nazi. Those people murdered many members of my community, I can’t stand to think I’m dealing with one now.
If I’m mistaken, please correct me. Maybe you’re not who I think you are. I pray it is so.
If I’m mistaken, please correct me. Maybe you’re not who I think you are. I pray it is so.
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@Marry888, thank you so much for speaking the truth. May HaShem (G-d) bless you and keep you safe all the long years of your life.
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@Zealot, no body questions the evidence, you’re all alone in your little world.
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What is this? Do you think we’re stupid? If you want facts that the Shoah happened, I’ll give them, I’ve spent some time with people like you before, I have a whole list which will debunk any claim you can put forward. On top of that, my unfinished paper which I’ll be happy to share as a link for all to digest. Then we’ll see where the facts lead, and its miles off from questioning the Shoah.
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See what I mean, people like him ruin it for others. I guess we’ll get closed out now.
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What am I to do? If you don’t like it, Zealot, through a chair at your computer screen.
. . . Actually, I’m quite glad its a computer screen now!
. . . Actually, I’m quite glad its a computer screen now!
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Brendan_64
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I do not agree with you there. The amount of evidence for the existence of the holocaust seems overwhelming to the point where it is the holocaust deniers that appear to deny the overwhelming evidence in order to cling to an ideological position based not on fact but a predetermined view of what they want the reality to be.
Tis_Bearself
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Perhaps just let it go and move on. Talk to those who are not here to debate the topic.
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Aulef
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I have interest in jewish historians and the mishnahs.
When it comes to the talmud, it can’t be discussed without involving politics.
When it comes to the talmud, it can’t be discussed without involving politics.
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So true! Is a small correction alright? There’s only one Mishnah, perhaps you’re thinking of the Midrash, which is often spoken of in the plural?
What would you like to know. I’m glad to help.
What would you like to know. I’m glad to help.
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I don’t understand your position here. Did you mean to say Talmud could be discussed without politics or with? Also, Mishnah makes up the Talmud with Gemara, so you can’t really separate the two unless we’re just talking about the Mishnah. Just know that the Gemara complements it, its pretty much an interpretation.
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I hate to say it, but other than Talmud, I dont even know what all those things are.
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Peebo
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Hi Rabbi…many Christians nowadays believe that we are in…or near the “end times”…the return of Jesus Christ…do Jews have any such “end times” beliefs…is the Jewish Messiah going to be from God…or will it be a Jewish man anointed by God…will his appearing also usher in the “end times”…is that part of the Jewish faith…shalom
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Allow me to explain…
The Mishnah is something that was written by Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi (the President of the Sanhedrin) as a result of the Jews having gone into exile by the Romans. Unlike the first exile at the hand of the Babylonians, where the Jewish people went as a whole to Babylon for 70 years and then returned, this one was horrific. . . . The Jewish people were spread out all over the Roman Empire, literally, we lost our autonomy in many ways. During that time, Yehudah thought that it was best now to put these things which were known orally to the Jewish nation, in writing. Many of these things were matters of halacha - practical Jewish law of divine nature. Later, the students of the students wrote down these things stated by our great tannaim into a book - or more like a series of books - known as the Gemara. The Gemara and Mishnah go like a hand in glove. The latter explains the former because these original teachers weren’t entirely clear on some issues which were paramount, and future generations would get lost, and, G-d forbid, violate a holy Torah commandment. For example, Shabbat will be in a few days, now there are many things a Jew is not allowed to do on this day. One such thing is to be careful not to light a fire on Shabbat. Now, in the tractate of Shabbos, however, a tanna wrote that you are in fact required, without question, to light a fire on Shabbat. He didn’t bother to explain why because the people back then knew the answer. However, in the time of the amoraim, a period which encompassed around 200-500 CE, the people were not as knowledgeable as they were back in Yehudah’s day, so they had to literally explain what the Mishanh meant by that. As it turns out, the Gemara verifies that one is allowed to break Shabbat in the case of an emergency. Therefore, if fire is needed to help a person, you must light it. See? This is why they had to write a commentary on the Mishnah because people of later generations might not understand the full clarity of what these great tannaim were writing.
Also understand that as an Orthodox Jew, I believe 100% that G-d did not give Moshe (Moses) a Written Torah alone. He gave an Oral Torah along with it, to explain all the secrets of Tanakh. This is just our belief, I’m not trying to impose it on anyone.
It goes without saying that this has all been verified by archaeology.
The Mishnah is something that was written by Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi (the President of the Sanhedrin) as a result of the Jews having gone into exile by the Romans. Unlike the first exile at the hand of the Babylonians, where the Jewish people went as a whole to Babylon for 70 years and then returned, this one was horrific. . . . The Jewish people were spread out all over the Roman Empire, literally, we lost our autonomy in many ways. During that time, Yehudah thought that it was best now to put these things which were known orally to the Jewish nation, in writing. Many of these things were matters of halacha - practical Jewish law of divine nature. Later, the students of the students wrote down these things stated by our great tannaim into a book - or more like a series of books - known as the Gemara. The Gemara and Mishnah go like a hand in glove. The latter explains the former because these original teachers weren’t entirely clear on some issues which were paramount, and future generations would get lost, and, G-d forbid, violate a holy Torah commandment. For example, Shabbat will be in a few days, now there are many things a Jew is not allowed to do on this day. One such thing is to be careful not to light a fire on Shabbat. Now, in the tractate of Shabbos, however, a tanna wrote that you are in fact required, without question, to light a fire on Shabbat. He didn’t bother to explain why because the people back then knew the answer. However, in the time of the amoraim, a period which encompassed around 200-500 CE, the people were not as knowledgeable as they were back in Yehudah’s day, so they had to literally explain what the Mishanh meant by that. As it turns out, the Gemara verifies that one is allowed to break Shabbat in the case of an emergency. Therefore, if fire is needed to help a person, you must light it. See? This is why they had to write a commentary on the Mishnah because people of later generations might not understand the full clarity of what these great tannaim were writing.
Also understand that as an Orthodox Jew, I believe 100% that G-d did not give Moshe (Moses) a Written Torah alone. He gave an Oral Torah along with it, to explain all the secrets of Tanakh. This is just our belief, I’m not trying to impose it on anyone.
It goes without saying that this has all been verified by archaeology.
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Yes, we have in fact a tradition which speaks of two Messiahs. In Jewish eschatological thought, we can avoid a “harsh” end days, where all the world will fight against Yisrael and her allies. In that respect, a Messiah son of Yosef will arise and then die. The people will mourn for him, and then the Messiah son of David will come and resurrect him back to life and this is the time we’ve all been waiting for. However, if we merit the Divine’s love, we can skip this horrific event and just shoot straight for the blessed age we all seek and pray for. In our tradition, the Messiah is only a man who will fear G-d (Isaiah 11:3), and not only that, but have physical children and offer a bull for his own sins (Ezekiel 37:25, 45:17-22). Therefore, our Messiah is only a man with no special powers outside of himself let alone G-d. In this regard, he is just a tool used for G-d’s own ends, and all praise goes to Him alone.
One last thing, we are definitely in the end of days, G-d promised throughout Scripture that in these days, He’d bring back all the Jewish people from the ends of the earth. Nearly 72 years ago, we as a people were almost destroyed, now, we and our allies shine as a holy land has been liberated. Cannot a greater case be made for G-d’s love for all of us, Jew and non-Jew alike?
Thank you, that was a great question, and shalom
One last thing, we are definitely in the end of days, G-d promised throughout Scripture that in these days, He’d bring back all the Jewish people from the ends of the earth. Nearly 72 years ago, we as a people were almost destroyed, now, we and our allies shine as a holy land has been liberated. Cannot a greater case be made for G-d’s love for all of us, Jew and non-Jew alike?
Thank you, that was a great question, and shalom
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The Midrash are just homilies, biographies, interpretations; in short, things not halachic. They are metaphors and don’t have to be taken in the literal sense, though they’re are many beautiful stories which highlight fine moral points. You should look into them, I think you’ll find much spirituality and love there. Another great question.
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phil19034
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It’s because the holocaust really happened! Plain and simple. Millions died. Millions of Polish Catholics died in Nazi camps too (but not close to the numbers of Jews).Brendan_64:
The problem is that when someone questions the Holocaust they don’t usually get facts, they get reactions like Rabbi is giving. Then the neo-Nazis swoop in and offer all kinds of “facts” and they look very reasonable in comparison. Add to that the tendency for… exaggeration… among some holocaust survivors and you can see why some people might question the narrative.
Anyway, I’m kind of done with this. My point was proven prett conclusively within a few minutes. The Holocaust isn’t a historical event to most people in modern society, it is a religion in and unto itself.
We have Catholic Saints who died in Nazi death camps.
The reason why you get these emotional responses is because a HUGE number of denyers / skeptics are simply anti-sememitic.
I remember a story my elementary school music teacher (a World War II vet) said when he was shot down over Nazi controlled area.
The Nazis would time prisoners up, lay them down on the ground and slowing drive a tank over them. Or just drive a tank into crowds, driving over whomever couldn’t get out of the way.
The Nazis were PURE EVIL.
So don’t make Catholic Answers look bad by questioning the holocaust. If you want to be that ignorant, please do it somewhere else.
God Bless
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