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Yes. Their death happened in realm of time but their soul is now outside the realm of time. You can pray and offer masses for souls who have died because God can provide those graces to them before they had died.
But they can’t be in Purgatory because Grandma was a really great person and we’re all so positive she went straight to Heaven. How could you suggest such a horrible thing during her funeral?Anesti33:
However, they may be in Purgatory and we pray for those souls.It seems chipper and pious to automatically canonize the deceased at his funeral, but that is not Catholic teaching. If we truly believed their souls were in Heaven, then they wouldn’t need our prayers, would they?
Yes. I would like to hear them say that they are praying for my mother in order to release her/ease her suffering in Purgatory. If someone tried to tell me that my mother positively went to Heaven, I would correct them. It is not compassionate to claim someone is in Heaven, it is a disservice.Is that really what you would want someone to say to you as you are grieving, @Anesti33? “Hey, I hope your Mom made it to heaven, but there is always a chance she didn’t.”
Think about it. Have you lost anyone really close to you, and would you want to hear that or something more compassionate?
I didn’t say anything about “not getting to Heaven” it’s just that we don’t know. We can’t have certainty. It is hubris for us to judge the state of their souls. It is second-guessing the Church, who is the arbiter of canonizations.Why must it be either/or though? Yes, it is nice to hear that people will pray for our loved ones, but no need to tack on the part about them not getting to heaven.