Can we say that "God IS" is an objective truth?

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. . . Oh I can be wrong - but not often I hope. So where did I go wrong this time? . . .
Since you usually present the arguments of St. Thomas Aquinas and the revealed truth as understood by the Church and described in the catechism, I don’t see that happening often. Some people don’t agree with your sources.
 
Since you usually present the arguments of St. Thomas Aquinas and the revealed truth as understood by the Church and described in the catechism, I don’t see that happening often. Some people don’t agree with your sources.
To be clear…

I agree with Linus much of the time - almost always, in fact - and I greatly enjoy reading Bahman because he has such a unique perspective with regard to the points he makes and is willing to put those points “out there” for critique.

I hope I haven’t offended either of you by my comments. :imsorry:
 
Since you usually present the arguments of St. Thomas Aquinas and the revealed truth as understood by the Church and described in the catechism, I don’t see that happening often. Some people don’t agree with your sources.
That is their problem. You can lead a horse to water, you can’t make him drink.

Pax
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Oh, I don’t know.

“The sky is blue,” would seem a clear statement of fact but, also, very much open for discussion, since the sky isn’t really “blue.”

Most facts are taken to “signify” something about the real world, much of which depends upon the current state of certainty - which always carries with it at least some discussion as to veracity.

Gravity may be a “fact” in the sense you mean, but the theories about what gravity is and why it works the way it does are far from being closed to discussion.
Quite different from claiming an all-powerful, yet unseen force in the universe as fact. Discussions over the particulars of well-known and documented phenomena are all part of scientific exploration.
 
Quite different from claiming an all-powerful, yet unseen force in the universe as fact. Discussions over the particulars of well-known and documented phenomena are all part of scientific exploration.
Ex nihilo nihil fit would seem to be as clear and uncontroversial as any fact you can bring up.

Or do you subscribe to the belief that things can “pop” into existence without any need for explanation?

Ergo, “unseen force” would seem a reasonable point of discussion since everything “seen” appears to have arisen ex nihilo 13.7 billion years ago.
 
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